MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

can't do any worse harm than they are going to do, my concern is some school or college kid reads these and deletes them, but worth a try to share a few distinct sentences. It saved Impressions de France, well barely to one showing a day anyway.

Really, was it comments or letter emails?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Anyone who understands Animal Kingdom has a serious issue with it as an IP at that park. There's a reason Joe Rohde was so opposed to it.

So anybody that’s fine with it at tree of life doesn’t understand DAK?

 

[UNCgolf]

So anybody that’s fine with it at tree of life doesn’t understand DAK?

Pretty much, yeah.

If Disney was adamant about forcing it into DAK, though, that's the best possible place for it. At least it's hidden/completely out of sight there.

Someone can accept it without being happy about it, though.

 

[James Alucobond]

If Disney was adamant about forcing it into DAK, though, that's the best possible place for it. At least it's hidden/completely out of sight there.

Also, as part of its current placement, they're maintaining Discovery Island as a land and not removing it with no proposed replacement.

 

[Grantwil93]

DAK is one of the most charming, well themed parks in the US. MK is seen as a discount DL. I think DAK is more sacred as its unique.

*in the world

We talk about good design, unique design, beautiful design, etc

DAK is world class in that regard. Nearly every inch of it is top notch visually. And I agree that anything to damage that is far worse than the inferior castle park in the US losing the river.

Dak may luck out again by getting the best designed stuff Aesthetically. And honestly, it deserves it.

 

[Grantwil93]

As far as we know, the Indiana Jones attraction will have a "mythical creature" in the temple, the carousel has animals for various Disney and Pixar movies, and Encanto has Antonio, who can talk to animals in the film, so that's their connection to animals to AK.

Indiana Jones can fit if you think the Everest storyline fits. Because it's essentially in that same category.

It's not a leap at all. Encanto is more of a stretch imo. But I think they are aware and are going to try to make it make sense

 

[Grantwil93]

And does Indiana Jones even fight mythical creatures in the movies?

He does in his books. And he even finds Dinosaurs! Its not completely foreign to his overall franchise. To the movies though, it's not something he has dealt with. Just aliens

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

He does in his books. And he even finds Dinosaurs! Its not completely foreign to his overall franchise. To the movies though, yes.

The IP jumped the shark with aliens and doubled down with time travel so dinos isn't too far fetched anymore. Sadly.

 

[Grantwil93]

The IP jumped the shark with aliens and doubled down with time travel so dinos isn't too far fetched anymore. Sadly.

It's actually a pretty good read. He gets brought an unfossilized bone of a triceratops. He ends up on a crazy adventure in Mongolia and befriends a dog. And he decides to keep the live dinos a secret in the end

 

[mickEblu]

Anyone saying that it would have been more detrimental or impactful if Zooptopia Land went to AK than MK losing the ROA is basically saying that just the mere presence of Galaxies Edge at Disneyland is worse for the park than losing the ROA for a Cars attraction would have been. It’s crazy talk.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Anyone saying that it would have been more detrimental or impactful if Zooptopia Land went to AK than MK losing the ROA is basically saying that just the mere presence of Galaxies Edge at Disneyland is worse for the park than losing the ROA for a Cars attraction would have been. It’s crazy talk.

It just comes down to preference really. Disneyland being Walt’s park is considered sacred, so i see why ROA is important and adding GE wasn’t a great decision.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It just comes down to preference really. Disneyland being Walt’s park is considered sacred, so i see why ROA is important and adding GE wasn’t a great decision.

That wasn’t the point at all….. GE existing as part of the Disneyland park does not destroy the park at all. Just like zootopia existing within DAK will not destroy the park.

 

[UNCgolf]

Anyone saying that it would have been more detrimental or impactful if Zooptopia Land went to AK than MK losing the ROA is basically saying that just the mere presence of Galaxies Edge at Disneyland is worse for the park than losing the ROA for a Cars attraction would have been. It’s crazy talk.

No they aren't, because those two things aren't similar. But since you've never been, it's understandable that you don't understand why what you're saying sounds so ridiculous.

 

[UNCgolf]

That wasn’t the point at all….. GE existing as part of the Disneyland park does not destroy the park at all. Just like zootopia existing within DAK will not destroy the park.

Galaxy's Edge at Disneyland, while a bit strange, isn't at all similar to Zootopia at Animal Kingdom. Disneyland already had Star Tours and it's always been a collection of essentially unconnected lands. Galaxy's Edge is different because it's a single IP land, but nothing about it contradicts the theme of Disneyland nor is it a dramatic departure from anything else in the park.

Zootopia at DAK would have been both of those things.

It's fine to think Cars at the Magic Kingdom is worse. There's nothing wrong with having that opinion. But you really sound silly when you frame it as though your opinion is objective truth and it's asinine for anyone to think Zootopia at DAK would be a big deal at all.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

but nothing about it contradicts the theme of Disneyland

How does zootopia contradict the theme of DAK?

 

[UNCgolf]

How does zootopia contradict the theme of DAK?

It's about humans living in a modern city dealing with human problems. The fact that they're disguised as animals makes it that much worse re: a fit for DAK. Animals as we know them don't even exist in the Zootopia world.

A modern city setting filled with humans instead of fake animal humans would actually be a better fit for the park than Zootopia, because that could at least deal with humans interacting with nature/wildlife as it exists in heavily urban environments.

Again, the principal designer of DAK has specifically said Zootopia does not fit. I don't know why it's even up for debate.

 

[James Alucobond]

That wasn’t the point at all….. GE existing as part of the Disneyland park does not destroy the park at all. Just like zootopia existing within DAK will not destroy the park.

Again, it is not only that Zootopia is a poor fit. It is that the original proposal eradicated an entire land (one of the five organizational cores of the park) and proposed no replacement, just a collection of mismatched attractions without even establishing a superficial raison d'être.

How does zootopia contradict the theme of DAK?

There are exactly zero animals in the franchise that meaningfully behave like animals or reveal anything about how humans interact with animals (because humans don't even exist in their world). It is not about the intrinsic value of nature because it glorifies tamed biomes-as-cities. There is no personal call to action with regard to conservation because industry, tech, and nature are intertwined with an exclusively human-behaving populace. Any sense of adventure is experientially human-adjacent.

 

[aladdin2007]

Could we get back to MK, the zootopia DAK really belongs in the other thread.

 

[mickEblu]

No they aren't, because those two things aren't similar. But since you've never been, it's understandable that you don't understand why what you're saying sounds so ridiculous.

Laughable.

 

[UNCgolf]

Could we get back to MK, the zootopia DAK really belongs in the other thread.

Agreed, although the discussion started as a comparison with Cars at MK.