MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[DarkMetroid567]

It's wrong, but you are entitled to that opinion.

tbh have never met anyone in real life who liked the old epcot spine besides the most ardent epcot superfans I worked with during my CP

but I used to work at electric umbrella so maybe the energy was particularly awful from that lol

 

[James Alucobond]

I’m not going to keep repeating myself.

All you have said is that you think it is a personal value-based judgment about how "integral" RoA is to the Magic Kingdom as a whole. You haven't actually said what is flawed about anyone else's logic that looks at things a bit more objectively.

Just so everyone is on the same page…. Here’s the comparison. View attachment 845289View attachment 845290

No one said the original proposal was unattractive. But it was a random collection of attractions that had nothing to do with each other or the park at large. An actually apt comparison would be if someone, in re-thinking the Magic Kingdom, said, "There is no more Tomorrowland. But we will not replace it with a new land; instead, it will be a beautiful 'attraction zone' with rides from Luca, Cruella, Inside Out, Mufasa, and the Mandalorian, because these are vaguely popular contemporary things."

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

No, my understanding is Coco would not work in the ROA space. The original concept for coco was indeed “beyond” big thunder.

I’m guessing Encanto was going to connect the coco area to the Villians area in the “beyond” concept.

Big Thunder Mountain appears on the left and maybe Coco was just west of it, Encanto appears like it be where Liberty Bell and nearby Liberty Square is.. We don't see HM but Villains is shown further back. If not then all this is beyond Big Thunder and not touching ROA at all.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

But it was a random collection of attractions that had nothing to do with each other or the park at large.

Just like the concept that was green lit.

 

[Agent H]

Paging @MisterPenguin

 

[James Alucobond]

Just like the concept that was green lit.

It has an announced organizing region (tropical Americas) and organizing village setting (Pueblo Esperanza), unlike the original concept, which was literally announced as "Moana ride and Zootopia ride". The IP used could impede their ability to pull it off well, but it is not inherently so.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I could probably go kicking through the old threads to find it, but some insiders were saying IPs were being "fought" over by the parks.

Moana also had potential to go in Adventureland (behind pirates).

Villains for me would suit Hollywood Studios because then you could have separate Halloween Parties geared to an older audience, plus you wouldn't have to worry about Villains dressed up people flocking in and out of Main Street USA. Hollywood Studios would become the cool park for teens and up!

 

[aladdin2007]

For Folks who want to try to save the Rivers Of America -

Go Here:

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Keep it short and polite.
Do not make suggestions. They immediately discard those emails because they do not be accused of taking you idea.
Do not say what you like about WDW or the MK, just be direct and say you do not want the Rivers Of America to go away.

We will all get an auto reply email, but I am told by an insider they are counting the "Save RoA" emails.
Its worth a try.

can't do any worse harm than they are going to do, my concern is some school or college kid reads these and deletes them, but worth a try to share a few distinct sentences. It saved Impressions de France, well barely to one showing a day anyway.

 

[Incomudro]

Didn't work for me when I wrote to them about Splash Mountain. They'll likely just send you a form letter reply.

The animals in Encanto, I'm pretty sure, aren't major characters - I know they claimed that the attraction would take place on the day Antonio got his power (which is when a good part of the movie takes place, doesn't it? Seems like an excuse to do a book report ride) but that doesn't necessarily mean the attraction will focus on the animals. It's like putting a Mulan attraction in Animal Kingdom because there's a dragon, a dog, a cricket, a horse, and a falcon in the movie... yeah, there are animals, but the film is still about humans.

And does Indiana Jones even fight mythical creatures in the movies?

Only slightly better. None of those films fit in Animal Kingdom with the possible exception of Zootopia, but I still wouldn't want Dinosaur rethemed to that.

For sure.
Disney is hammering a square peg into a round hole with Encanto and Indy.
Neither have anything to do with the theme of AK.
But they'll throw some animals in, and try to force the idea.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Paging @MisterPenguin

Do you need a therapist for those still in denial, or a grief counselor?

 

[Agent H]

Do you need a therapist for those still in denial, or a grief counselor?

I need to do your thing the thing you’re most famous for on the site

 

[MisterPenguin]

I need to do your thing the thing you’re most famous for on the site

I just did.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

It’s not, but you’re entitled to your wrong opinion View attachment 845284

I loved the canopy!

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Just so everyone is on the same page…. Here’s the comparison. View attachment 845289View attachment 845290

The bottom pic was the Moana plan not Zootopia

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Yeah I don’t follow the logic. I’m assuming Zootopia land would be in a corner of the park and/or that they’d be sure to sort of hide it from the rest of the park like GE at DL. If so, Zootopia would only harm the thematic consistency of the park but technically you could avoid it. Not sure how that is worse than losing the beautiful ROA and design intent of an entire quadrant of Disneys main park at their flagship resort. That’s been there since 1971 I might add and has a lot of emotional attachment from a lot of fans. Losing the ROA at MK pi$$es off a whole lot more people than adding Zootopia at AK. Even just on a basic psychological level. You’re gaining something in one scenario that’s not even replacing really anything of value (except maybe Dinosaur) and losing something cherished in another.

It's sader actually than Zootopia. Zootopia isn't replacing anything nor in the center of the park.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The bottom pic was the Moana plan not Zootopia

It’s both.

 

[UNCgolf]

Only slightly better. None of those films fit in Animal Kingdom with the possible exception of Zootopia, but I still wouldn't want Dinosaur rethemed to that.

Zootopia is a much worse fit than any of the other films. Not that any of them are great, but there's a way to make them work if Disney wants to do it. Zootopia is inherently wrong for Animal Kingdom; it's a truly horrible fit for the park in nearly every way.

More importantly, it's not just about the content of the attractions themselves. It's also about the aesthetic/design. Again, it's baffling that someone could look at the Moana/Zootopia art and not think it's 1000x worse than the Encanto/IJ art. It's a random collection of rides with one designed around fantasy technology. The IJ/Encanto art is centralized around an actual area of the world with a human village, much like the existing areas of Animal Kingdom.

In fact, when it was announced, there was a pretty big wave of happiness here that they were going to do the South America area instead of the horrible Moana/Zootopia concept -- possibly even by some of the people now saying they're basically the same thing.

 

[UNCgolf]

It’s both.

Yeah, they just conveniently made Zootopia tiny in the concept art because even they knew it would be a terrible fit.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Again, it's baffling that someone could look at the Moana/Zootopia art and not think it's 1000x worse than the Encanto/IJ art.

you seem to have serious issues with zootopia as an IP. I’m not looking at it that way.

 

[UNCgolf]

you seem to have serious issues with zootopia as an IP. I’m not looking at it that way.

Anyone who understands Animal Kingdom has an issue with it as an IP at that park. There's a reason Joe Rohde was so opposed to it. It's unfortunate that they're putting it in a theater show, but if they were going to force it into to DAK, that's the best possible place for it.

Zootopia would be fine if they put it at DHS.

More importantly, the problems are far beyond Zootopia as an IP. I truly don't understand how you can look at the two drawings and not see how the IJ/Encanto plan fits much better into the existing park than the Moana/Zootopia random collection (including a ride themed around fantasy technology). Again, there's a reason people were so relieved when the IJ/Encanto concept was announced instead.

It's not that people are over the moon about Encanto/IJ as IPs at Animal Kingdom (well, I'm sure some people are), it's that the whole concept for the surrounding land is far better.