MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Streetway Again]

Not at all. I’m not against Cars as an IP - the Cars Land is probably the most successful 1 IP land Disney has done. I enjoy it very much.

I’d take cars replacing the speedway for sure - would make lots of sense and could even blend fantasyland and Tomorrowland in a nice way.

What I’m hung up on is removing the riverboat, rivers of America, waterfront, etc. that’s what most people are upset with I think.

Maybe I should’ve worded it better: people would be angry about the river going regardless. I am arguing that people are probably more mad than they would be with another ip in the “replacing the river” situation, because cars is probably the ultimate “extra punch in the nuts” or “rubbing salt in the wound” choice of a property that would off fans the most.

I.E., it’s the worst case scenario for many.

 

[mickEblu]

For any NBA fans - Dallas trading a 25 year old Luka Doncic = Disney getting rid of the entire ROA.

IMO, just porting the Wreck-It redo of Space Ranger Spin from Tokyo feels like the easier win on that front. I still stand by making TRON into Aquatopia (or basically the same thing) with some light 20k Leagues theming references in the water to partially restore the original transition and compensate for losing a lot of water by adding some back elsewhere. An accompanying retheme of Cosmic Ray's would also be most welcome, preferably with edible food.

Easier. Definitely not better than a fully fleshed out Sugar Rush version of RSR.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

As a sympathetic Disneylander I guess I can now selfishly say that a silver lining for me is that an MK with a more of a unique identity that sets it apart from Disneyland will be waiting for me at WDW one day. Not that the entire ROA had to go to accomplish this or that I would have ever green lit this project for this reason. I think that could have been better accomplished by keeping half of the ROA, building Villains land, and building a Sugar Rush Wreck it Ralph ride (instead of the off brand Cars adventure) at the TL Speedway. Not to mention the potential Moana ride in Adventureland. Thematically a Wreck it Ralph / Sugar Rush ride would feel right between Fantasyland and TL unlike Cars in Frontierland and on top of the corpse of the ROA. The Sugar Rush ride, Villains and Moana to go along with the likes of Tron/ 7DMT would be great for MK. All while keeping an integral part of the park alive.

I am not a Disneylander but do still feel like more important to keep more of the original elements there vs Florida. Obviously changes can still (and have) happened but I would be much more upset about the rivers of America being removed than at MK

 

[JohnD]

Disney World's Cars-Themed Land Gets Green Light as Environmental Permit Is Approved​

Disney World's Cars-Themed Land Gets Green Light as Environmental Permit Is Approved

Disney World's Cars-Themed Land Gets Green Light as Environmental Permit Is Approved

www.wdwmagic.com

All I ask is they save Liberty Belle. Maybe dock it somewhere off PO or DS?

 

[JohnD]

Anyone have a handy link to the permit?

@danlb_2000 ?

 

[PizzaPlanet]

With the amount of merch that Cars has sold, it makes sense that a major attraction would eventually come to WDW. If they hadn’t acquired Lucasfilm, there would probably be a Cars Land where Galaxy’s Edge sits today

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I am arguing that people are probably more mad than they would be with another ip in the “replacing the river” situation,

if we had to lose the River, period, I would prefer a coco boat ride e ticket over the cars ride. The cars ride does not seem particularly interesting to me - but maybe it will work better than I’m imagining.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

To all you Orlandans, Floridians and people who grew up with MK / WDW as their home park. I’m sorry, this is pretty awful. Hopefully Villains Land is great.

Don't be sorry for us. I've got faith that when its all said and done this will be good for Magic Kingdom. The worst Frontierland in the world has been in dire need of attention and upgrading for my entire lifetime. It, like most things in Magic Kingdom, is a downgraded version of what is done better in other castle parks around the world. It's not as beautiful as Paris', it's not as energetic and lively as Anaheim's and Tokyo's, and it's not as unique as Shanghai's and Hong Kong's. It's not the worst thing in the world to look at, but it lacks and has always lacked in comparison to the other examples around the world.

MK is the most visited park in the world, and I've long been tooting the horn that it needs to actually set itself apart from the other castle parks in ways that aren't just having the inferior versions of attractions but on a larger scale. It needs things that are unique to it, and the idea of going in and changing the lands to do that is not a poor one. The concept of a National Park interpretation of Frontierland is a smart one, and if executed correctly (and yes, I admit that's a big if), then it could instantly bump up from the bottom to near the top. MK needs to stop trying to do what the other parks are doing and just do MK. A completely unique interpretation of Frontierland that's not trapped in this frozen state it's been in since the 80s is the perfect opportunity for that.

I'm not completely sold on the IP attached to it yet but if what they build actually resembles that concept art and we actually get a truly unique, energetic, and nice looking National Park spin on the land, then MK's Frontierland may finally become an interesting place to be.

 

[Agent H]

Don't be sorry for us. I've got faith that when its all said and done this will be good for Magic Kingdom. The worst Frontierland in the world has been in dire need of attention and upgrading for my entire lifetime. I'm not completely sold on the IP attached to it yet but if what they build actually resembles that concept art, then MK's Frontierland may finally become an interesting place to be.

I hope you are right I am excited for villains but I can’t see how this specific change will be an improvement on this side of the tunnel

 

[Fox&Hound]

I am actually excited to see what they will build. I love the water but won’t miss the island one bit. I hope the concept art is true with the water features and snowy vistas. That could be interesting.

 

[Disone]

I am actually excited to see what they will build. I love the water but won’t miss the island one bit. I hope the concept art is true with the water features and snowy vistas. That could be interesting.

Eh. Seven dwarfs mine train had beautiful water features.... When it first opened. They've been shut off for a long time now. For as much rain as Walt Disney World gets, they sure do seem to struggle to keep their water features going and to keep water as a feature.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It, like most things in Magic Kingdom, is a downgraded version of what is done better in other castle parks around the world.

Not necessarily - Tom Sawyer island at MK is quite charming with the AA’s in the fort, the swinging bridge, the mills you can go inside.

I’ve always liked how splash and big thunder were so close together - 2 amazing e-tickets right next door to each other.

The real issues with Frontierland are budget cuts over the years. Aunt Polly’s, Horseshoe, the cowboy band (banjo brothers and bob) keel boats….

 

[mickEblu]

Don't be sorry for us. I've got faith that when its all said and done this will be good for Magic Kingdom. The worst Frontierland in the world has been in dire need of attention and upgrading for my entire lifetime. It, like most things in Magic Kingdom, is a downgraded version of what is done better in other castle parks around the world. It's not as beautiful as Paris', it's not as energetic and lively as Anaheim's and Tokyo's, and it's not as unique as Shanghai's and Hong Kong's. It's not the worst thing in the world to look at, but it lacks and has always lacked in comparison to the other examples around the world.

MK is the most visited park in the world, and I've long been tooting the horn that it needs to actually set itself apart from the other castle parks in ways that aren't just having the inferior versions of attractions but on a larger scale. It needs things that are unique to it, and the idea of going in and changing the lands to do that is not a poor one. The concept of a National Park interpretation of Frontierland is a smart one, and if executed correctly (and yes, I admit that's a big if), then it could instantly bump up from the bottom to near the top. MK needs to stop trying to do what the other parks are doing and just do MK. A completely unique interpretation of Frontierland that's not trapped in this frozen state it's been in since the 80s is the perfect opportunity for that.

I'm not completely sold on the IP attached to it yet but if what they build actually resembles that concept art and we actually get a truly unique, energetic, and nice looking National Park spin on the land, then MK's Frontierland may finally become an interesting place to be.

What recent projects stateside are you pulling this faith from?

 

[mickEblu]

I am not a Disneylander but do still feel like more important to keep more of the original elements there vs Florida. Obviously changes can still (and have) happened but I would be much more upset about the rivers of America being removed than at MK

I agree and would be livid if they got rid of it in DL but still upsets me for MK.

 

[Agent H]

Not necessarily - Tom Sawyer island at MK is quite charming with the AA’s in the fort, the swinging bridge, the mills you can go inside.

I’ve always liked how splash and big thunder were so close together - 2 amazing e-tickets right next door to each other.

The real issues with Frontierland are budget cuts over the years. Aunt Polly’s, Horseshoe, the cowboy band (banjo brothers and bob) keel boats….

I’m not familiar with the one in Disneyland but we have an actual fort you can visit

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Anyone have a handy link to the permit?

https://apps.sfwmd.gov/entsb/docdownload?object_id=0900eeea96d622cf

Direct link to the permit itself.

Links to the exhibits are on page 30.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’m not familiar with the one in Disneyland but we have an actual fort you can visit

I never saw the original fort wilderness at Disneyland - it had long been neglected and closed. I think I visited Tom Sawyer island before they cut it back, but I’m not entirely sure. Seems like I would have.

The current island at Disneyland is nice enough. A few trails and caves. Some props from the pirate movie. Kinda fun to walk along the Fantasmic stage.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

This is just so shortsighted. Cars racing past the Haunted Mansion. Cars racing past the runaway mine train. Cars racing past the Country Bear Musical Jamboree.

The amount of "settling" I see in this thread is somewhat disheartening. It's because they think people won't care that they make these dumb decisions. I suppose it's not surprising that the podcasters on here are in favor, but I've yet to find one that's critical without being somewhat crazy. Maybe I need to start my own. I have a hunch there are many more "Disgruntled Walts" out there than just me.

 

[WaltWiz1901]

I find it funny in terms of clones people complain for Disneyland and Disney World however Universal makes sure each resort each coast has a form of the same land and nobody is complaining with them!

honestly going to say that just as the Magic Kingdom is not Disneyland (and vice versa), Disney is not Universal, and building mostly nearly 1:1 clones of the same attraction - especially in the same country - borders on being every bit as "Universal" as their repeated, and repeatedly scattershot, attempts to come up with the next "Potter swatter".

I'm not completely against and can actually get behind building a popular attraction more than once, but IMO it's equally as important, if not more, that each park (even the Disneyland-style ones) maintains some sort of distinct identity, and that means claiming a few unique attractions to themselves

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

but IMO it's equally as important, if not more, that each park (even the Disneyland-style ones) maintains some sort of distinct identity,

Why?

and that means claiming a few unique attractions to themselves

every castle park has this already.