MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

WaltWiz1901

WaltWiz1901

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lazyboy97o said:
A few new small dark rides that wouldn’t convince many to book a trip is very much what Magic Kingdom needs more than anything. That’s how you actually add capacity without negating its impact with new demand.
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besides refreshing the facades of the existing attractions so that the whole land gels better, these low-key are what New Fantasyland really could've benefitted from, arguably more than what did get built. with Mermaid, they pretty much sold the public on a groundbreaking E-ticket and wound up underdelivering with what could be called, at best, a high C/low D (and not a very well-executed high C/low D, either).

imagine how things could've gone if they had put in two or three C/D-tickets that are actually designed to help fill out a guest's day - or to put it another way, do what so many defend the Mermaid that was built for doing - while simultaneously putting in a new, true E to anchor the project
 
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mickEblu

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Disgruntled Walt said:
This is just so shortsighted. Cars racing past the Haunted Mansion. Cars racing past the runaway mine train. Cars racing past the Country Bear Musical Jamboree.

The amount of "settling" I see in this thread is somewhat disheartening. It's because they think people won't care that they make these dumb decisions. I suppose it's not surprising that the podcasters on here are in favor, but I've yet to find one that's critical without being somewhat crazy. Maybe I need to start my own. I have a hunch there are many more "Disgruntled Walts" out there than just me.
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I’ve been having the same thoughts. Let’s chat. I’ll cover the DL side. You cover the WDW side. The fandom needs a couple of honest, disgruntled fans keeping it real on YouTube.
 
Agent H

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I never saw the original fort wilderness at Disneyland - it had long been neglected and closed. I think I visited Tom Sawyer island before they cut it back, but I’m not entirely sure. Seems like I would have.

The current island at Disneyland is nice enough. A few trails and caves. Some props from the pirate movie. Kinda fun to walk along the Fantasmic stage.
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They use it as storage for fantasmic in California right?
 
Gusey

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I'm really looking forward to this new attraction and the finished New Froniterland. The whole West side of the park had been in a dire need of an update and refresh, especially when you consider that before 2024 (Tiana's & Country Bear refresh):
  • the newest attraction on that side of the park opened in 2001 with The Magic Carpets of Aladdin in Adventureland
  • the newest attraction in Frontierland opened in 1992 with Splash Mountain
MK is also in need of some more unique attractions as it's become the home of clones and cloned attractions. When you look at the only unique MK attractions to not exist at any other park, they aren't exactly must dos for the every day guests but things to fill the park day:
  • Country Bears
  • Hall of Presidents
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle
  • The Barnstormer
  • PeopleMover
  • Carousel of Progress
  • Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
 
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danlb_2000

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JD80 said:
Anyone who was thinking otherwise was wishcasting. This is the first that has to happen as infrastructure before anything happens in the parks.

I assume they are moving fast with the BTM track work so they can get the crane out of the way or move those resources elsewhere. Then they'll go ahead and start bulldozing trees for lay down. Theyll have to bring in a lot of gravel.

Just a guess, once that's all completed and inspected they can start working on the the river. Since the RoA is part of this permit they can work on draining it and doing any other work.

Has anyone dug into the permit for this and how much reshaping the land in MK is allowed?
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The crane isn't really in the way of any of the Carsland work.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Disgruntled Walt said:
This is just so shortsighted. Cars racing past the Haunted Mansion. Cars racing past the runaway mine train. Cars racing past the Country Bear Musical Jamboree.

The amount of "settling" I see in this thread is somewhat disheartening. It's because they think people won't care that they make these dumb decisions. I suppose it's not surprising that the podcasters on here are in favor, but I've yet to find one that's critical without being somewhat crazy. Maybe I need to start my own. I have a hunch there are many more "Disgruntled Walts" out there than just me.
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I beg you please don't start another podcast. If there is one thing this world does not need, its more damn podcasts.
 
Brer Panther

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lazyboy97o said:
A few new small dark rides that wouldn’t convince many to book a trip is very much what Magic Kingdom needs more than anything. That’s how you actually add capacity without negating its impact with new demand.
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It feels like every new addition to Disney World since Seven Dwarfs Mine Train NEEDS to be a big expansion or an E-Ticket for some reason. Should we blame Potter's success on this too?
 
Gusey

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Brer Panther said:
It feels like every new addition to Disney World since Seven Dwarfs Mine Train NEEDS to be a big expansion or an E-Ticket for some reason. Should we blame Potter's success on this too?
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That's why it's quite nice that they're adding 3 new shows this year, the Tropical Americas Carousel and the Cars Rallye Race is bringing a smaller Cars ride with it (I hope we'll find out more details about this ride soon)
 
TheMaxRebo

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Brer Panther said:
It feels like every new addition to Disney World since Seven Dwarfs Mine Train NEEDS to be a big expansion or an E-Ticket for some reason. Should we blame Potter's success on this too?
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I think it is more how they look at what draws people in and what will get them to pay for LLMP/SP - every project needs to show what the return on the investment in (directly or indirectly - obviously a lot easier to show direct on a spreadsheet)

And for marketing - what is going to get people motivated to book a trip (or at least contribute to that feeling). Now, the smaller attractions might help contribute to a positive experience and promote return trips, but harder to quantify
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Brer Panther said:
It feels like every new addition to Disney World since Seven Dwarfs Mine Train NEEDS to be a big expansion or an E-Ticket for some reason. Should we blame Potter's success on this too?
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Honestly I kinda would but I think it's also a case of a few other things.

1. The Internet in general & its attitude towards theme parks/imagineering shifting. Think about it like this, as an Imagineer do you want to be known for something like "Barnstormer", "Astro Orbiter", "Mad Tea Party"? Probably not usually, these rides imo are essential for helping maintain capacity with an overall pretty minimal footprint. And even then, there are calls from people to REMOVE them (especially shocking with Astro Orbiter) and replace them with... nothing?? With the war between the parks, every ride is compared against each other, no matter the scope. Tron wasn't as good as Hagrids? Not worth the time, didn't live up to the hype. People want to be known for making the "incredible Encanto dark ride" or the "Rise of the Resistance". You want to be known for the amazing stuff if you only have the chance to work on a select few projects especially with the budgetting so... you only start pitching the big showstoppers in the first place while each park really needs capacity. One thing I will say is that I'm glad the Cars area is getting what appears to be a B or C ticket ride as well as its main E-ticket ride. And Tropical Americas is also getting that C/D ticket. Maybe Disney will realize the importance of the smaller rides and I hope Villians Land gets 1-2 smaller ticket rides as technically D'maro said 2 MAJOR attractions.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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TheMaxRebo said:
I think it is more how they look at what draws people in and what will get them to pay for LLMP/SP - every project needs to show what the return on the investment in (directly or indirectly - obviously a lot easier to show direct on a spreadsheet)

And for marketing - what is going to get people motivated to book a trip (or at least contribute to that feeling). Now, the smaller attractions might help contribute to a positive experience and promote return trips, but harder to quantify
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also this in combo with what I said is very true. Especially with the single passes, if a ride can go on VQ & Single Pass only for a while, its a money maker by itself. No one's going to pay for a Single Pass for the Trixie Spin flat ride if they added it to Toy Story Land so it doesn't make immediate returns. SP is unique as its a way Disney can show IMMEDIATE returns on a single attraction, which wasn't really a thing for a long time.
 
disneyC97

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Gusey said:
I'm really looking forward to this new attraction and the finished New Froniterland. The whole West side of the park had been in a dire need of an update and refresh, especially when you consider that before 2024 (Tiana's & Country Bear refresh):
  • the newest attraction on that side of the park opened in 2001 with The Magic Carpets of Aladdin in Adventureland
  • the newest attraction in Frontierland opened in 1989 with Splash Mountain
MK is also in need of some more unique attractions as it's become the home of clones and cloned attractions. When you look at the only unique MK attractions to not exist at any other park, they aren't exactly must dos for the every day guests but things to fill the park day:
  • Country Bears
  • Hall of Presidents
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle
  • The Barnstormer
  • PeopleMover
  • Carousel of Progress
  • Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
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Minor correction - Splash Mountain opened in 1992 at The Magic Kingdom
 

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