Anyone who thinks Lincoln does not belong on Main Street USA does not onow their history off the man's visits across Midwest.
If 1850-1900 themed Haunted Mansion can reside in 1770’s Liberty Square, then I guess not on the inside.Wait... so does that mean time period is irrelevant to theme?![]()
A lot of people also don't have any clue to why things are the way they are, or why they feel a certain way. The general population are not theme park designers, so handing the control stick over to them would be disaster. A likewise, if you simply built what they thought they wanted, you'd have a stinking pile too.
Ask someone "would you want 3 roller coasters or 1?" "THREE OF COURSE!" - Then you hand them Primevial Whirl and they tell you the park sucks. No, YOUR ideas for a park suck![]()
What? What do you mean vastly missing the point and being vague on purpose doesn't articulate the point that someone was making. We should not ask for anything because the magical monkey paw is purposefully making it as bad as possible on purpose. People want a zootopia themed land? Sure we get a themed land but it's all bathrooms! See people don't know what they want!This is such an awful example. By the same token peoolecould ask for a dark ride and be handed Superstar Limo. Does that mean the people who want more dark rides have sucky ideas too?
Those are park visits per year. I didn’t say they were unique visits, but they are # of days attended by guests in a year
You can’t compare a 2 day trip to Disneyland by one person vs. a week long trip to Disney World (and perhaps Universal / Sea World) for a week by one person. That would be statistical malpractice
Again, the unit here are theme park visits, not # of unique guests. And Orlando pulls in way, way more than SoCal
This is such an awful example. By the same token peoolecould ask for a dark ride and be handed Superstar Limo. Does that mean the people who want more dark rides have sucky ideas too?
What? What do you mean vastly missing the point and being vague on purpose doesn't articulate the point that someone was making. We should not ask for anything because the magical monkey paw is purposefully making it as bad as possible on purpose. People want a zootopia themed land? Sure we get a themed land but it's all bathrooms! See people don't know what they want!
No.I'm sorry, but no.
The fact that they aren't unique visitors is incredibly important to the point you were attempting to make. I don't care about the underlying argument about WDW vs. Disneyland, but what you said was simply wrong from a statistical analysis standpoint. You can't just add up the total park visits when one resort has four parks and one has two if you want any kind of remotely useful information (at least in this context).
A stronger argument would be that the Disneyland numbers likely have a significantly higher percentage of repeat local visitors, which means their actual unique visitor total probably is lower than the raw numbers suggest.
This is such an awful example. By the same token peoolecould ask for a dark ride and be handed Superstar Limo. Does that mean the people who want more dark rides have sucky ideas too?
“The ghosts are from 1770 so the times match up” lolIf 1850-1900 themed Haunted Mansion can reside in 1770’s Liberty Square, then I guess not on the inside.
Remember, they did close Rafiki's Planet Watch in 2018 "permanently" before re-opened it with the Animation Academy in 2019, now with a Fastpass opportunity in that area of the park.I’d be interested in the Tom Sawyer island numbers vs. Rafikis Planet Watch
100%.And you called my example bad? I can’t even understand your leap.
Case in point… what made disney parks great was they insight to know what would create greatness…. Before the audience even knew it was possible. Building the solution the mob says you should build will only ever get you a hot mess
Exactly.Yes… because the general population is short sighted, selfish, and generally stupid. So if you want to let them dictate what your creative direction by building their solutions instead of listening to their needs. You deserve the hot mess you’d get.
Well I mean.....Electrical lighting is also residing in 1770's Liberty Square .If 1850-1900 themed Haunted Mansion can reside in 1770’s Liberty Square, then I guess not on the inside.
No.
I never claimed unique visits or unique visitors is what you get from combining multiple parks’ attendances. I don’t know why you keep saying that?
You get total visits to the combined parks, and it’s an absolutely valid metric to look at because it’s measuring total consumption of the product, which yes, includes both unique consumptions and repeat consumptions.
Let’s say $100 is the average cost per day at a US Disney theme park
DLR had a combined 27.25 total visits in 2023. At $100 per day DLR would have made $272.5 million — whether that’s 1 person visiting 27.25 million times or 27.25 different people visiting 1 time it does not matter.
WDW had a combined 48.77 total visits in 2023, which would amount to $487.7 million paid on theme park visits, almost twice.
Add in Sea World, Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure to FL and Universal Studios Hollywood to CA and you get an even wider margin. Without question, Orlando is a much larger and more competitive theme park market than Anaheim / LA. Epic Universe will only increase that. That was the original point
The fact one market has 2x the number of parks than the other is part of the actual point that it’s a more competitive market
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