Permits are already being filed. This isn’t going to develop in any direction better than what has been shown.
I honestly don’t know what the original argument was. I was just correcting the time period of Big Thunder. Frontierland has always had a bit of a smattering, with Tom Sawyer in the 1840s, Big Thunder in the 1890s, Splash somewhere in Reconstruction (~1860-1900), and Country Bears possibly occurring in the 1920s working forward from the 1898 founding, assuming it’s meant to be interpreted that way.
So just throw standards out the window? No one ride is going to fail because it didn't fit a theme. People pay 5, 6, 8, 10 grand on a vacation to Disney. No one is going to say, sorry I'm not riding frozen because it doesn't take place in Norway! You pay top dollar to be there, if they throw a bare framed coaster like at SeaWorld in the middle of animal kingdom, it's going to be popular, I guarantee it doesn't fail. But that doesn't make it the right decision. Heck, if they put 7D mine train in animal kingdom its still popular and doesn't "fail". They are devaluing the brand by becoming just another hodge podge of rides in a park. And time will tell if the prices they are asking will be worth it for the quality being given. They've already lost our yearly trips, and I doubt I'm the only one.
Just to expand on this a bit - Disney Parks were always more than the sum of their parts. That was the Disney parks brand and it’s what made them different from Universal and even regional amusement parks.
Tiana’s source material is an animated film, as is Cars. The Cars proposal isn’t Toon Lagoon where it literally all looks like a cartoon. They seem to be using real trees and water. The landscape will mesh really well
That was the original argument — that even if you’re a purist on Frontierland and that it must have a time component, the land already stretches over decades and Cars would be an extension not inconsistent with the largest gap in the land today (1840s to 1920s = 1920s to 2000s)
I don't think anthropomorphic car-people and stylized car part mountains and features will be a really good mesh with the realism they were attempting with Big Thunder... nor will any of that mesh with any part of the riverfront area that currently exists now... Again, a human based world...based on human history as a background, to a nonsensical Automobile inhabited world of car parts masquerading as nature doesn't seem at all like a fit...except there are trees and rocks... Just a bad and strange move all around... If only there were a theme park based on films, all types, where this sort of shift would make perfect sense......
The issue is that certain things can coexist without clear anachronism to a modern viewer whereas others cannot. Transportation is one of those things that frequently cannot. Most people have an innate sense that, say, chariots generally didn’t coexist with Conestoga wagons, or that horse-drawn carriages generally didn’t coexist with modern automobiles. You can get away with hitching posts, steamboats, and wagons overlapping a bit with the earliest cars, but most people realize something is afoot when you throw modern ATVs into that mix.
I was answering no you the question at the end of your post. The rest was mostly just sharing facts about federal land. Many people think federal land = NPS, but NPS only manages a small percent of federal land.
You are talking in tongues and making an argument that you want to make.
Well now, they did close Primeval Whirl, and it was never a big hit while it was open. Yet it is a ride that has done well in other locations.
Marketing is the science of convincing people to buy products that they don’t want or need.
I wonder if “fans” realize this is a discussion board where we discuss positives and negative of the past, present, and future.
Disney parks have never been kids parks. It’s pretty telling that your view is that you can look past the aspects that take away from them.
Really not sure where this idea came from that you can’t recognize the flaws in things you enjoy.I wonder if “fans” realize this is a discussion board where we discuss positives and negative of the past, present, and future.
Now I did question if I had outgrown Disney and just became jaded when I didn’t like any Disney fireworks shows, then I saw Wondrous Journeys and realized that no, the current Florida shows just totally suck haha (exaggeration of course
That’s not how themed areas work - if you establish a land as 1840s-1920’s that doesn’t mean you can double the time span.
Exactly - I love Apple products but don’t get me started on taking headphone jacks off iPhones….
