Chef idea Mickey`=
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Where would the line go... this is Frozen we're talking about. Turn the entire path by the castle closed or covered walkways would be so unpopular.
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Chef idea Mickey`=
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Does anyone think The Liberty Bell is not much an interest because it just circles a back part of the park. If it had a stop along the way like say a stop at Villain's or and Cars (if both lands were in an own expansion far back) or had the river circled part of the park and had a stop from one point to another then it would be a popular transportation system as well as an attraction.
Animaniac93-98
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If Disney wants to get rid of the train, they don't necessarily need Villains Land to be the excuse. They can justify anything.
And the fans will defend it:
"I never rode the train"
"the train is boring compared to Disneyland"
"Shanghai doesn't have a train, why does MK need one?"
"It costs a lot of money to maintain and operate"
"It's not IP and my kids don't get it"
"Disney is a business"
Gusey
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I will say, this is a common complaint I have seen. There isn't enough to see and there is no diorama's like Disneyland and DLP's. Not saying they should get rid of the train at all, but they should invest in adding some scenes to make it more of an experience that just transportation
Ghost93
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I want the train to remain, I just would much, much rather prefer Villains land if I had to choose between the two.
Ideally, the solution would be to reroute the train to go around villains land.
Animaniac93-98
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They had the chance to do so while it was closed for TRON, and didn't. Even the TRON tunnel is lackluster.
Doubt they'd do anything now, though I would be happy to be wrong.
Chef idea Mickey`=
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This is what makes me sad about possibly losing the Liberty Bell. Was exciting to ride the railroad but very disappointed after seeing how there really isn't anything around except it went through splash mountain. I didn't like the first half route it smelled to me like mold. The Riverboat is everything classic Disney it bring's atmosphere to the park, kinetics, charm, nostalgia...yeah.
TrainsOfDisney
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True but they usually use construction / expansion as an excuse. Riverboat and Red Car Trolley as examples.
There’s no reason you can’t have both just like there is no reason you can’t have cars and a riverboat.
flyerjab
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Will be at MK tomorrow. Can’t wait to walk back through Liberty Square and hang a left to imagine what this will look like.
I’m actually looking forward to this. We recently were at DCA for the first time and experienced RSS. Top notch experience on all counts. This experience could even be better if they are including tunnels, mountain paths, water features, all on a trackless system.
I’ll be honest. As a family we went to TSI once in the more than 60 times we’ve been to WDW. The riverboat I think we have been on twice and it was hot, slow and not entertaining.
I’m not foolish here. I know that this is about IP, merch, money. Before they truly expand these parks, they are simply maximizing their return on investments. But I have no issues with the parks constantly changing. The water front was nice from an aesthetics perspective, but that was it. I won’t miss this area at all and welcome the change.
I’m actually looking forward to this. We recently were at DCA for the first time and experienced RSS. Top notch experience on all counts. This experience could even be better if they are including tunnels, mountain paths, water features, all on a trackless system.
I’ll be honest. As a family we went to TSI once in the more than 60 times we’ve been to WDW. The riverboat I think we have been on twice and it was hot, slow and not entertaining.
I’m not foolish here. I know that this is about IP, merch, money. Before they truly expand these parks, they are simply maximizing their return on investments. But I have no issues with the parks constantly changing. The water front was nice from an aesthetics perspective, but that was it. I won’t miss this area at all and welcome the change.
TrainsOfDisney
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At some point we aren’t visiting “Walt Disneys Magic Kingdom” - where is that line?
Or the answer is “people don’t care”?
Or the answer is “people don’t care”?
Chef idea Mickey`=
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Cars Land has been their return investment since 2012. Your telling me it took them longer to get more from this franchise something amazing beyond the show at DHS or the tram experience they have out in DLP than Frozen.
They see to know Epic Universe is coming in hot with Donkey Kong Mine Cart and just now that they want to put you in various terrain, experiences makes me more curious had Universal never been in the picture what kind of Walt Disney World and Disneyland resort would've looked like today.
Animaniac93-98
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"Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom" is Disneyland. That's the sacred text.
The Magic Kingdom is seen by corporate and its customers as the mass market knock off.
It has no value or history of its own. Its prupose is to make money and satisfy the basic desire to "go to Disney".
LittleBuford
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As one of those customers, I couldn’t disagree more.
HMF
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That's how corporate sees it.
KDM31091
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Honestly wouldn’t be shocked if the train goes eventually. They seem to hate it. They close it at any opportunity, frequently only run one train so you must wait 20+ mins, and they had 5 years to upgrade and add to it and realistically, the sights suck, you see basically nothing interesting the whole time.
And of course, it’s non IP and doesn’t sell LL.
I could see them just permanently parking it at Main Street and calling it a day.
And of course, it’s non IP and doesn’t sell LL.
I could see them just permanently parking it at Main Street and calling it a day.
LittleBuford
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HMF
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Since Disneyland is in California it is held in higher regard by the California based executives.
LittleBuford
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Animaniac93-98
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It's not just the executives, it's also the creative talent that grew up with Disneyland, much like the 2nd generation of WDI
That's why The Magic Kingdom is constantly tinkered with to be more like Disneyland, instead of respecting what WED did differently when designing and building it.
Few have an attachment to WDW specifically, outside of maybe EPCOT which is seen as different enough from Disneyland to be considered special.
Gusey
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Hopefully, if it has to close for villains like it did Tron, they can add something there, potentially replacing the Native American Village which is likely next for the chopping block