News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[CoasterCowboy67]

The IP is.

No it’s not. Cars 2 expands the IP to Europe via the World Grand Prix storyline. The concept of vehicles with eyes on them isn’t just on Route 66. Neither is the proposal Radiator Springs at DCA which is based on Route 66

The D23 presentation made clear they were more thoughtful about how they’re doing this

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

I'm quite well-versed on what the real frontier is, thank you. Route 66 isn't it.

Our education system sadly has been proven to be abysmal.

We can agree on the latter, particularly reading comprehension. See my post above -- this proposal has nothing to do with Route 66. The Cars franchise has settings across the world

 

[Ghost93]

I think Disney just wants Frontierland to remain more relevant. Some may view the initial iteration as a monument to a time in which Native Americans were being displaced and killed by colonizers. The new version isn't a tribute to a specific time but more of a , "anything west of the east coast" land. The vibe is more mountains and evergreen trees versus the Wild West.

 

[Coaster Lover]

As a millennial that is not what me or anyone I know in my age group thinks of as “the frontier”

As a millennial, my frontier was pretty radically different than previous generations... we had the "final frontier"... (which had no deserts, cacti, or rattlesnakes to be seen)

 

[el_super]

Not sure if it had been posted before but this was a pretty interesting video:



I had mentioned that travel had become cheaper and experiences were more accessible as a reason why far-off-distant-locales as theme park themes was on the outs recently, but this actually adds a new perspective for me: that OTHER Disney theme parks have also become more and more accessible. So why duplicate experiences between them? You want to see a Disney river experience... just go to Disneyland.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

You want to see a Disney river experience... just go to Disneyland.

I thought only the radical Disney fans visited multiple parks? Talk about goal posts moving. Haha

 

[el_super]

I thought only the radical Disney fans visited multiple parks? Talk about goal posts moving. Haha

I was referring to the radical Disney fans. No normal person is going to turn down going to WDW because it doesn't have a river.

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

I think Disney just wants Frontierland to remain more relevant. Some may view the initial iteration as a monument to a time in which Native Americans were being displaced and killed by colonizers. The new version isn't a tribute to a specific time but more of a , "anything west of the east coast" land. The vibe is more mountains and evergreen trees versus the Wild West.

Maybe they rename it Westernland as it’s called in Tokyo. Not sure if that’s been discussed?

At DLR, Frontierland is much smaller there and easier to keep its name

At MK, Frontierland has for decades had a broader definition given it contained Splash Mountain. So maybe another step in the broader direction via Cars inspires a name change. But the D23 presentation seemed to suggest they’re keeping the name and just re-emphasizing the geographic connection which works too

 

[Disstevefan1]

You want to see a Disney river experience... just go to Disneyland.

Better go before they fill that one it too.

 

[Raineman]

This thread has turned into the most massive Mexican standoff that I've ever seen here, and we've had some doozies in the past (anyone remember the thread about the gator/little boy incident 8 years ago?) I think it's pretty clear that everyone here is not going to change their stance, no matter what side of this they're on. Going forward, I'm most likely just gonna sit back with my popcorn and enjoy, and stop getting frustrated with the opposing views from mine. Thank you all for the entertainment that you will be providing lol.

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

I thought only the radical Disney fans visited multiple parks? Talk about goal posts moving. Haha

So now we want the parks to be duplicates of each other? Bring back the ride clone era?

That’s an interesting twist in this already dramatic thread

 

[Raineman]

So now we want the parks to be duplicates of each other? Bring back the ride clone era?

That’s an interesting twist in this already dramatic thread

"Dramatic" might be a bit of an understatement

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

So now we want the parks to be duplicates of each other?

I want a Castle park to resemble a castle park yes! Haha

 

[Admiral01]

Aside from the thematic fit of Cars in Frontierland, I worry most about the loss of the geographic diversity in the park. ROA provides the park an medium other than cement. The water provides a visual and emotional break from the chaos of the sidewalks. Even though it is a man made waterway, it’s still a waterway, and people find waterways peaceful and relaxing to be around. MK used to have two major water feature focal points - ROA and the submarine lagoon. We lost the lagoon, and now we’re going to lose ROA, leaving the MK with no water feature focal points.

My biggest complaint about Tokyo Disneyland Park is the lack of geographic diversity - the park feels like it is a bunch of building sitting on a flat parking lot. Their ROA is tucked in the back, so it provides little to break up the park’s walkway monotony. For example, their HM is kinda just awkwardly stuck off a big flat walkway. Compared to the HM in WDW, DL, and Phantom Manor in Paris, which all have the ROA, the TDL HM never had the majesty and beauty sitting on a hill next to the river and that hurts the park. It is something the got 100% right in the mix of geographic diversity at Tokyo DisneySea. It feels like WDW is intentionally going the rout that TDL inadvertently took 40 years ago.

EPCOT has the world showcase lagoon. DHS has the lake. DAK has the river and lagoon. DL has their ROA and their submarine lagoon. DCA has their lake and their water ride. DLP has their ROA. WDSP has their lake. TDS has the Mediterranean lagoon and water all over. Big water like that at a Disney park is not at all a waste of space. The water is soothing and relaxing and helps everyone have a moment of calm. No big water at MK, the busiest and most hectic theme park in the world, is going to hurt, regardless of how good the Cars attraction may be.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I’m a millennial. The connection to the island itself is only partial, kinda the same as toontown (still can’t believe they evicted Mickey from his own house! Haha).

I like seeing the mills turning and the formerly burning cabin, and when I go over I enjoy the AA Chickens.

But the steamboat is part of the heart and soul of the park. That’s what many of us care about the most.

Exactly. same here

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I thought only the radical Disney fans visited multiple parks? Talk about goal posts moving. Haha

It's so annoying that you only hear from the ones who show off, have channels, vloggers, that are in need to respond they want a different experience at each coast when truly both coasts are already different in so many forms. Disney World is not another Disneyland. WDW appeals and brings international visitors from around the world including numbers who would not go to Disneyland when they know they have 4 four parks, now universal with three parks that they want to come see. WDW is supposed to be a representation of elements from every disney parks in the world It's the place Walt moved because Disneyland had no room and it never meant even Walt at first didn't ask for a park there that they still made a castle park with a ROA when they didn't have to. I don't think Walt would want WDW to be the diet version of all the other parks just because it has four parks.

 

[el_super]

I don't think Walt would want WDW to be the diet version of all the other parks just because it has four parks.

But Cars will make MK unique and special. Diet? Cars will be a better experience.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Aside from the thematic fit of Cars in Frontierland, I worry most about the loss of the geographic diversity in the park. ROA provides the park an medium other than cement. The water provides a visual and emotional break from the chaos of the sidewalks. Even though it is a man made waterway, it’s still a waterway, and people find waterways peaceful and relaxing to be around. MK used to have two major water feature focal points - ROA and the submarine lagoon. We lost the lagoon, and now we’re going to lose ROA, leaving the MK with no water feature focal points.

My biggest complaint about Tokyo Disneyland Park is the lack of geographic diversity - the park feels like it is a bunch of building sitting on a flat parking lot. Their ROA is tucked in the back, so it provides little to break up the park’s walkway monotony. For example, their HM is kinda just awkwardly stuck off a big flat walkway. Compared to the HM in WDW, DL, and Phantom Manor in Paris, which all have the ROA, the TDL HM never had the majesty and beauty sitting on a hill next to the river and that hurts the park. It is something the got 100% right in the mix of geographic diversity at Tokyo DisneySea. It feels like WDW is intentionally going the rout that TDL inadvertently took 40 years ago.

EPCOT has the world showcase lagoon. DHS has the lake. DAK has the river and lagoon. DL has their ROA and their submarine lagoon. DCA has their lake and their water ride. DLP has their ROA. WDSP has their lake. TDS has the Mediterranean lagoon and water all over. Big water like that at a Disney park is not at all a waste of space. The water is soothing and relaxing and helps everyone have a moment of calm. No big water at MK, the busiest and most hectic theme park in the world, is going to hurt, regardless of how good the Cars attraction may be.

So on point!!! I don't understand the direction they are trying to go with WDW. One way they are chasing behind Epic Universe meanwhile when Epic is bringing so much water, kinetics, synchronization kinetics for a showcase and atmosphere is like they know they can't compete anymore. Fountain of Nations was a monument with the nation's of the world pouring their waters in it and even if it wouldn't compete to say the next parks Bellagio wouldn't stop people loving it and it worked and functioned more so than now you're TBA and JOW and lights on a sidewalk that don't function most of the time. I believe Epic Universe is going to showcase something that Magic Kingdom and Epcot have removed. Epcot for uniqueness and united strength, Magic Kingdom for it's flagship signatures and step within a different time and era that Universal alone couldn't have today.

 

[celluloid]

They are not. Theme parks have to make money to justify their existence. Theme parks make money by making people happy. You can't ignore that when tonal changes have occurred in the parks in the past, they have largely been successful and made Disney lots of money.

It really calls into question how important something "fitting" into the area really is.

Different mediums. Otherwise we would only have casino experts running theme parks.

The American Frontier wasn’t a place none had gone before — Native Americans lived there for centuries

It was extreme wilderness from the experience of people living in the 13 colonies. There was promise of land, gold, etc. but also taller mountains, deeper canyons, desserts, sickness, and dangers unlike anything they were used to. National Parks in the West today exist to protect these environments so that we can experience them as close as they did centuries ago. National Parks honor and celebrate the American Frontier

National Parks were not made to protect the spirit of forging westward. Literally made t protect and keep land preserved. Your argument fell apart.

As a millennial that is not what me or anyone I know in my age group thinks of as “the frontier”

It did make me laugh too.

 

[uncle jimmy]

The IP is.

Watch Cars 3
Without giving away the film Lighting ends up traveling to Thomasville, GA with Doc Hudson's old mentor and crew chief Smokey. There are many scenes that look like inspiration for this attraction.