V_L_Raptor
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Mind you, there's still considerable uncertainty once the shovels are busy. Epcot made that vividly clear.
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Mind you, there's still considerable uncertainty once the shovels are busy. Epcot made that vividly clear.
wannabeBelle
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Define using ROA? I use that all the time that I am in MK. I'm sure many of us fans and even casual visitors do as well. I walk along it's banks to get from one location to the next. I sit by it to rest in between, and watch it as I am on other attractions or in line for other attractions. Is it an attraction in and of itself in terms of is this a ride? No but does it have to be to enhance the park? We all know about the depth of detail that Disney puts into their designs for the parks, how is this any different? I am not against change, but it has to be done correctly and as history has shown, sometimes this has not been done in the best way. I am simply suggesting that both outcomes can be achieved with a little creativity and done very well, marrying the old and new. Marie
Disstevefan1
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Dizknee_Phreek
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If only more people had used Splash Mountain
Disney doesn't need a reason to replace something. Whether it's considered popular or not, if they feel the need to replace they will. Popularity may play a part to a degree. But it's not the only reason Disney keeps attractions or gives them the axe.
1. "Sources" need a citation. What sources?
The internet echo chamber of a thousand armchair imagineers (in the second stage of "bargaining") who are offering alternate plans aren't *sources*.
People seeing petitions and deducing "well, surely, Disney must be reconsidering based on these petitions" aren't *sources."
Repetition isn't a source.
Anyone who says, "Sources say..." without citation is a liar.
Also, *rumors* are not *inside information.* Inside information is based on facts. Rumors could be based on facts, but also, be based on assumptions that are wrong and outright lies.
Also, what Disney has done in the past is not necessarily what they will do in the future. Making that jump to a conclusion is fallacious.
2. Regarding "Disney Adults" -- without Disney adults, the parks would be closed the entirety of the school year. "Disney is for children!" There'd be no year-round Disney for children to enjoy without Disney adults.
The internet echo chamber of a thousand armchair imagineers (in the second stage of "bargaining") who are offering alternate plans aren't *sources*.
People seeing petitions and deducing "well, surely, Disney must be reconsidering based on these petitions" aren't *sources."
Repetition isn't a source.
Anyone who says, "Sources say..." without citation is a liar.
Also, *rumors* are not *inside information.* Inside information is based on facts. Rumors could be based on facts, but also, be based on assumptions that are wrong and outright lies.
Also, what Disney has done in the past is not necessarily what they will do in the future. Making that jump to a conclusion is fallacious.
2. Regarding "Disney Adults" -- without Disney adults, the parks would be closed the entirety of the school year. "Disney is for children!" There'd be no year-round Disney for children to enjoy without Disney adults.
MerlinTheGoat
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That actually just made it look even more like a transparent troll attempt to me...That doesn't sound like a troll to me
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
They are utilized.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
It is a good investment.
TrainsOfDisney
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so why does Disneyland continue to expand and add attractions and yet with fewer guests per year, and paying CM’s much more, the admission cost is actually lower?
John park hopper
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My guess the corporate head quarters are in CA maybe they executives visit DL once in a while
Disstevefan1
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I remember visiting the CANT MISS Osborne lights and just looking in awe and KNOWING how MUCH WORK AND COSTS WERE INVOLVED and wondered why the kept doing it every year and MAKING IT BETTER every year.
There was no hard ticket event, no LL, no monetizing except your ticket to get in the park.
I remember thinking to myself, "this must cost a fortune to put together!"
The fact that they did the Osborne light lights year after year and kept plussing it ever year only for their guests enjoyment was amazing!
Even the cast members working there knew this was special. I have fond memories of dancing along with the cast member under the glorious dancing light and music. It was spectacular.
Bocabear
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despite complaints about Alien Encounter, it was always more popular than that Stitch disaster. I guess they just wanted to change the IP and appeal to younglings....But even that was shuttered and sits vacant. So me it is ridiculous that they would worry so much about this Carsland Addition with Tomorrowland in it's current condition... It is a mess and needs a bunch of investment to bring it back properly...there is also expansion space beyond just the shuttered Alien Encounter/Stitch theater... I would rather see them refresh and renew Tomorrowland as a whole making it feel like a complete thought rather than a random collection of attractions that have nothing to do with each other or the "land" that they are in....If only more people had used Splash Mountain
Disney doesn't need a reason to replace something. Whether it's considered popular or not, if they feel the need to replace they will. Popularity may play a part to a degree. But it's not the only reason Disney keeps attractions or gives them the axe.
Raineman
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Disney has let Tomorrowland crumble at the untouchable holy land that is DL, so they will have no reservations about doing it at the redheaded stepchild known as WDW.
phillip9698
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This is my exact argument when people say frontline food workers anywhere shouldn’t get paid much because it’s a job for high schoolers who want extra money.
Ok if that’s the case, those businesses should be closed during school hours correct? I mean if the workers are high schoolers why are you open during school hours.
John park hopper
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We have a huge high school dropout rate guess that's where they are working when the other kids are in school
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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As Walt said, Disneyland was meant for everyone of all ages. It was supposed to be a place everyone could have fun at together, unlike typical amusement parks which were only for kids. He made his movies and park the way HE wanted it to be, not what he thought kids would like. It just so happens that if you make entertainment suitable for everyone, kids will like it too.
Dizknee_Phreek
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Yes! I definitely remember Alien Encounter being popular. I was too chicken to do it at the time but loved the concept. But I had absolutely zero interest in Stitch so the redo never thrilled me. And apparently it didn't thrill many others either.
But Tomorrowland 94 was absolutely brilliant and so well executed. It's a shame Disney started slowly chipping away at the cohesive theming. And now we're left with the hodgepodge they created. That's basically all their theme parks are now.
Dizknee_Phreek
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Exactly. Disney has seemed to have forgotten about this quote from Walt:
"You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."
The Disney parks used to allow kids and adults to dream together in a fantastical version of a reality based grown up world. Not within the confines of a cartoon world.
Advisable Joseph
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MerlinTheGoat
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He's claiming he works at a "Disney warehouse" and his fiance is a "manager" at WDW. Even if that's actually true, those aren't the sorts of positions that would grant you knowledge of what the upper echelons of Burbank's corporate leadership are discussing. It's just a slightly altered variant of the old "bus driver heard a rumor" shtick.He's been setting this up for ten years?
I do not follow your reasoning at all.
I'm strongly advising people here not to believe this sort of thing because it pretty much never ends well. You're setting yourself up for disappointment and grief. If you hear this backed up from respected staff members from this site or any insiders here or elsewhere with a solid proven track record, then MAYBE you can have a glimmer of hope. But some rando on facebook with no proven track record who claims they and their girlfriend work at Disney World and have heard a rumor, people should know better by now to exercise a lot more skepticism.
I've seen no one with a solid reputation stating that they have independently heard about this rumor from their own sources. Even Brayden hasn't touched it. I'm also still waiting to see who these "multiple outlets" are that have supposedly said they heard the same. I suspect even if they do exist, they are clickbaiters all pulling from this same Facebook dude.
Reiterating, I would be thrilled to be wrong about this and have Disney make a hard reversal on this project. But I also know that there are high ups who have been eager for years to get rid of the entire river and everything associated.
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