Indeed. Time to discard all this "Imagineering" nonsense they have been going on about for all these years and just start building loosely associated attractions close to one another as people only really care about new rides anyway.
Had no idea there was a castle in central Park.
Well, that is what they've been doing already anyway.
Echo Lake, really?? It’s a retention pond. MK will have more water than Echo Lake when all is said and done, and that’s not including the castle moat and Jungle Cruise. People are reaching so far to tear this decision down.
Only after they explain why there’s a fairy tale castle at the end of an early 20th century American small town street…. And why there are flying magic carpets in the middle of a remote jungle… and why there’s a noisy and smelly gas-powered raceway in the future where cars go 7 mph…. I can go on and on and on.
Now that this has come up twice, has anyone ever argued that the carpets were anything other than a thematic disaster for very little (if any) benefit? It's also a particularly strange one to bring up, as it's not exactly like Walt decreed an Aladdin Dumbo clone for Adventureland at the MK.
Yeah it’s their characterization and perceived influence that are questionable. This “committee” is far and away the biggest boogeyman around here…
WDW is built on a swamp, having water isn’t the issue, good design is the issue, specifically using expanses of water as part of an overall park design & the fact that the current group at Disney doesn’t inspire confidence that they’re capable of designing & executing a decent large scale redesign.
Well it doesn’t change what exists and has been the case for decades. Themes are directional and expansive. This has always been the case for Magic Kingdom. People’s understanding of theming can be far too literal and rigid, and thus restrictive for a park at the scale and success of Magic Kingdom.
I agree here. As I’ve stated over multiple threads I don’t think this has much (if anything) to do with the “committee” in question, unless it’s a financial committee. This decision is seemingly specific to the way the WDW business model is structured.
The blame should rest with TDO and the execs since likely the primary motive here is likely a financial not an altruistic one, to replace aging and under-maintained attractions over regularly upgrading them and simultaneously expanding the footprint of the parks.
What “problematic” attraction or experience purportedly targeted by them hasn’t been materially changed?
I don't doubt that the "problematic" issues with the island are at least somewhat part of the decision to remove the ROA but I don't think it's the main reason. This decision is mainly a financial and logistical one rather than cultural insensitivity one. If it is the case that the ROA and TSI have been deemed "problematic" by Burbank than why aren't they announcing a ROA replacement at every other park? I'll tell you at least one reason for Disneyland, Fantasmic is there and makes a lot of money off dining packages. The ROA at wdw does not share that same characteristic and in the eyes of the penny pinchers is expendable. Also your last point about how this cars ride can built anywhere. Can't any ride be built anywhere?
Houses of the Holy
Yes, how very anti-Christian of Disney to remove it.
That ain't tabaccy in Joe's pipe, he's plenty happy.......Whelp, I guess this plate will be a collectible soon…..
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What does Joe think of all this??
Hey Joe, you are about to be evicted from your riverside shack.
Whaddya gonna do now…?
( He is already at DizzyWorld…)
“Well dang, a Frontierland without a riverboat is a world I jus’ don’t wanna live in, ya’all…”
He looks contemplative and sad.
Like me regarding this mess.
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Exactly. The carpets were a terrible decision and their placement even worse. Not only did it not fit in with anything else surrounding them, they created such an awful bottle neck in that area. It was one of the first thematically terrible decisions in an increasing snowball of terrible decisions.
