News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[TrainsOfDisney]

Not to mention, Disneyland’s has always been more aesthetically pleasing.

Oh I disagree - as clever as the design is for the Fantasmic stage it takes quite a bit of charm away from the island. In Florida we have Aunt Polly’s gazebo, the water mill, and the windmill. Both have the previously burning cabin.

MK’s river is also connected to a very sophisticated water management system, unlike Disneyland’s.

That can easily be changed if that is an issue.

 

[Stripes]

So because it’s “not as aesthetically pleasing” as Disneyland’s, that means it has to go? If Disney wanted to save the river, they could. Aren’t the imagineers supposed to be the best in the business? Are we really supposed to believe they couldn’t come up with some sort of solution, even to preserve the front part of the river along the walkway?

Again, with money and time anything is possible. I would rather the resources be spent elsewhere. Instead of the worst and most pathetic Rivers of America at any Disney park around the world, which would’ve been made even more so by developing around it and ruining its charm, you’ll have something even more beautiful and unique to Florida.

 

[Stripes]

Oh I disagree - as clever as the design is for the Fantasmic stage it takes quite a bit of charm away from the island. In Florida we have Aunt Polly’s gazebo, the water mill, and the windmill. Both have the previously burning cabin.

I agree that MK’s is more charming. But Disneyland’s is better looking.

In my opinion.

 

[Incomudro]

I’m not trying to invalidate your feelings, but I don't think it’s a "flashy" IP anymore. I’m Gen Z, and Cars definitely gives me nostalgia; it takes me back to my childhood. It’s not really a new product—it’s almost 20 years old. I don't agree with its placement, but I think a lot of people from my generation are going to feel pretty nostalgic about it.

I'm 60, and I've got nostalgia for it because my twin sons were little when the movie was out and they loved it.
They had all of the diecast cars from the first film.
I've got a diecast Lightning McQueen on my nightstand because it brings me happy memories of when my sons were little.

 

[psherman42]

Again, with money and time anything is possible. I would rather the resources be spent elsewhere. Instead of the worst and most pathetic Rivers of America at any Disney park around the world, which would’ve been made even more so by developing around it and ruining its charm, you’ll have something even more beautiful and unique to Florida.

With respect, you have no idea that the new area will be even more beautiful. And that still wouldn’t change the fact that it could go somewhere else. We could have had a unique area *somewhere else.

I wish that I could be excited about this project like unfortunately so many are, but I just can’t given what we’re losing. I’ve always been supportive of Disney. While I’ve been sad about some attraction closures, it’s always been second to the excitement of what’s coming. But gutting RoA for this just feels so wrong.

There are tons of rumors flying around about ideas that are planned for MK in addition to what was announced at D23. And if that’s actuallt the case, they should build a fifth park instead.

 

[Stripes]

With respect, you have no idea that the new area will be even more beautiful. And that still wouldn’t change the fact that it could go somewhere else. We could have had a unique area *somewhere else.

I wish that I could be excited about this project like unfortunately so many are, but I just can’t given what we’re losing. I’ve always been supportive of Disney. While I’ve been sad about some attraction closures, it’s always been second to the excitement of what’s coming. But gutting RoA for this just feels so wrong.

There are tons of rumors flying around about ideas that are planned for MK in addition to what was announced at D23. And if that’s actuallt the case, they should build a fifth park instead.

MK, being the most visited theme park on the planet, has to expand its capacity in order to ensure a decent guest experience for future generations. It has to make sacrifices that other parks don’t have to make.

I’m confident that I will appreciate the new aesthetic in Frontierland and Liberty Square more. Grizzly Peak at DCA is my all-time favorite land, and its clear that’s where they are drawing their inspiration from.

 

[hopemax]

So my first anecdotal story in the wild. Disney section of the Funko HQ in Washington. Dad asked his preteen daughters if they heard that they were taking out Tom Sawyer Island and the whole river for… he was a little confused if it was Cars or Villains. So I explained Cars for the River / Island and Villains is a later project in empty space by Haunted Mansion. But bonus points to him for knowing it was the whole river was going away.

He said, “That sounds okay because he loves the one in CA.” I said, well it won’t be the same ride because they don’t have enough space. He said, he loves the area more than the ride, and I said, I don’t think they are getting anything like that because of the space issues.

The little interaction ended there, but this is another concern to track. If regular folks assume MK is getting something equivalent to the land in DCA, even if the ride is different.

 

[celluloid]

Apparently the attendance wasn't all that low at all.

That was confirmed long ago thst they were low. They are called attractions my guy. That is why theme parks build them. So people current numbers and more visit.

 

[psherman42]

MK, being the most visited theme park on the planet, has to expand its capacity in order to ensure a decent guest experience for future generations. It has to make sacrifices that other parks don’t have to make.

I’m confident that I will appreciate the new aesthetic in Frontierland and Liberty Square more. Grizzly Peak at DCA is my all-time favorite land, and its clear that’s where they are drawing their inspiration from.

But there are other ways. They don’t have to sacrifice the river, or at least not the entire river. They could get rid of the speedway. SGE still sits empty. They have space behind the park. There are other options they could have explored that don’t eliminate RoA.

Grizzly Peak is a beautiful area and that’s great it’s your favorite area. But it still doesn’t belong in Frontierland or Liberty Square.

 

[Stripes]

But there are other ways. They don’t have to sacrifice the river, or at least not the entire river. They could get rid of the speedway. SGE still sits empty. They have space behind the park. There are other options they could have explored that don’t eliminate RoA.

Grizzly Peak is a beautiful area and that’s great it’s your favorite area. But it still doesn’t belong in Frontierland or Liberty Square.

Grizzly Peak is literally the American frontier. There isn‘t a place that represents it better, in my opinion.

 

[RSoxNo1]

The Christler has a bumper sticker that says, "Honk if you love me."

You win, we can all quit now.

 

[trainplane3]

Fake news!!! I was told the pirate ship never actually runs!

Also… it’s very selfish of anyone to ride those rides - they are the reason the cost of admission is so high!

Sorry haha

I know you're joking but the Columbia is running today.

Meanwhile, at Disneyland...

It's a shock how busy it really is. Today the both boats were pretty busy and rafts were packed. As a first time DL'er, it's so awesome to all of that.

 

[erasure fan1]

MK, being the most visited theme park on the planet, has to expand its capacity in order to ensure a decent guest experience for future generations.

There's one big problem with expanding the magic kingdom. Unless they are going to do a whole heck of a lot more than villains and cars, you're not really helping. New stuff will bring more people in. The biggest relief for the magic kingdom, Is the 3 other parks to be full. They need to draw people away from the magic kingdom, not bring them to it. The magic kingdom will always be the flagship park and need to be the biggest. But it's so far ahead of all the other parks right now, it's not even funny. That's why I think cars should be for a different park. The studios and animal kingdom have much more of a need.

 

[Stripes]

There's one big problem with expanding the magic kingdom. Unless they are going to do a whole heck of a lot more than villains and cars, you're not really helping. New stuff will bring more people in. The biggest relief for the magic kingdom, Is the 3 other parks to be full. They need to draw people away from the magic kingdom, not bring them to it. The magic kingdom will always be the flagship park and need to be the biggest. But it's so far ahead of all the other parks right now, it's not even funny. That's why I think cars should be for a different park. The studios and animal kingdom have much more of a need.

Mmm…I think expansions at other WDW parks probably strain MK more at this point than an MK capacity expansion.

Nobody skips MK. So if they book a trip to go see Encanto at DAK, they’re gonna go to MK too, but unlike DAK, MK hasn’t expanded its capacity thereby making it feel more crowded.

 

[James Alucobond]

Nobody skips MK. So if they book a trip to go see Encanto at DAK, they’re gonna go to MK too, but unlike DAK, MK hasn’t expanded its capacity thereby making it feel more crowded.

MK also has entertainment must-sees like Happily Ever After that make capacity even worse because everyone wants to squeeze into one land at once. Here's hoping Villains tries doing the Galaxy's Edge thing with an alternate evil version of the show projected onto Maleficent's castle.

 

[Stripes]

MK also has entertainment must-sees like Happily Ever After that make capacity even worse because everyone wants to squeeze into one land at once. Here's hoping Villains tries doing the Galaxy's Edge thing with an alternate evil version of the show projected onto Maleficent's castle.

Given its location, it would be perfect for viewing the fireworks!

 

[TP2000]

InAs someone that lives in the PNW, I’m very excited to see that region of our country represented in the parks for the first time.

Good news! Disneyland already represents the Great Pacific Northwest, and has for many decades.

The Sailing Ship Columbia, one of the "hard facts that created America" from Walt's opening day speech made its fame from the multiple daring exploration and trading trips to the Pacific Northwest, en route from Boston to the Orient and then on to Europe and back to Boston. It was on its second exploration of what is now coastal Oregon in 1792 that Captain Gray sailed the Columbia over a sandbar and discovered a mighty river that travelled hundreds of miles inland. That river now bears the name of his ship, and the Disneyland attraction; the Columbia River.

The Columbia flagship, with its two smaller companion ships, was the first vessel to circle the globe flying the American flag in 1787-1790, long before our nation had a Navy, and that's why Admiral Fowler suggested it to Walt when Walt and Dick Nunis were wanting a second big boat for Disneyland's river in 1957. The Columbia was added to Disneyland in 1958.

During the big 2016-17 rehab the Rivers of America received, they plussed up the pre-existing "four rivers" show concept that Tony Baxter created earlier in the 2000's. As part of that work, a segment of the Rivers of America now uses the extremely unique hexagonal basalt rock formations found only along the Columbia River, a geographic marvel created by the massive floods that swept across the Pacific Northwest at the end of the last Ice Age.

The hexagon rocks beneath the Indian Chief were created by WDI to mimick the same rocks along the Columbia River basin; one of those things you can only find in the Pacific Northwest, or at Disneyland! There's a few other Pacific Northwest callouts in Disneyland, but those are the two off the top of my head without going to Google, and just before the Friday Cocktail Hour begins. I'll see if I can remember some more.

But it's almost 6pm here in San Diego, so in about half an hour I will raise my Friday martini to you and the other Disneyland fans from the Great Pacific Northwest! Don't worry, Walt and WDI didn't forget about us!

Who do we think did hexagonal basalt from the Columbia basin best? WDI as seen above, or Mother Nature as seen below?

 

[erasure fan1]

Nobody skips MK. So if they book a trip to go see Encanto at DAK, they’re gonna go to MK too, but unlike DAK, MK hasn’t expanded its capacity thereby making it feel more crowded.

Yes, I do agree to a point. But here's my issue. Why do they go see Encanto or monsters inc. then go to the magic kingdom? If they're like my family, there's just not enough to do in in either park. I'm not saying MK doesn't need more capacity, it most certainly does. But you have to get people like me, to not always end up in the magic kingdom. I know we can't be the only ones who have that problem.

 

[RosR9]

I’m not trying to invalidate your feelings, but I don't think it’s a "flashy" IP anymore. I’m Gen Z, and Cars definitely gives me nostalgia; it takes me back to my childhood. It’s not really a new product—it’s almost 20 years old. I don't agree with its placement, but I think a lot of people from my generation are going to feel pretty nostalgic about it.

I agree with this! I’m almost 30 and Cars is very nostalgic for me and yet my 5 year old nephew also LOVES it

 

[Stripes]

Yes, I do agree to a point. But here's my issue. Why do they go see Encanto or monsters inc. then go to the magic kingdom? If they're like my family, there's just not enough to do in in either park. I'm not saying MK doesn't need more capacity, it most certainly does. But you have to get people like me, to not always end up in the magic kingdom. I know we can't be the only ones who have that problem.

Typically, if we’re running out of things to do at another park, we don’t park hop to MK. Honestly, right now, MK is at the bottom of my family’s list. But we still go every trip because it’s the quintessential Disney park. You just can’t skip it.

But that’s just my family. I’m sure other families and folks have different perspectives. I’m glad MK is getting an expansion that will hopefully make it a more worthwhile park for my family to visit.