News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

psherman42

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From the concept art, there is still water in those sections, you can see guests crossing a bridge over water to get to the Cars attractions. Hopefully, there will be a steady stream between the Frontierland town and the Cars Mountains
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You really think one small section of water makes up for them bulldozing the entire river? That that small piece makes this all okay?
 

psherman42

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I'm fine with this, makes more sense than trying to expand past the train-tracks at this time. Fills in what was essentially dead space in the park, and I think the mountains/waterfalls/trees will be just as nice to walk by as the river. Regardless of how TBA turned out ride-wise, its exterior is pretty spectacular.
If they even happen. You know water features are the first things cut. (See: Epcot redo)
 

ToTBellHop

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File this next to the Splash Mountain, Great Movie Ride, Streets of America, Maelstrom and Universe of Energy petitions
Found them
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Dizknee_Phreek

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The word on the street is the sponsor (Chevrolet) expressly rejected this option. They are paying for their IP to be the focus, not Pixar.
That makes total sense. I worry what will happen when/if Chevy pulls their sponsorship. Funny how Disney used to feel more "Disney" when other companies sponsored attractions 🤔 Too bad that didn't work out as well with Cirque du Soleil though.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
If it were a more suitable property, I’d be much more in favour. For example, it could be a Pocahontas themed river rapids.

The Cars movie franchise has generated $21.5 billion in merch and ticket sales.

Unless I'm reading that wrong, Cars is the highest-grossing Disney franchise without an actual ride in Walt Disney World.

This NYT article from 2023 says Pocahontas has earned about $707 million in ticket sales. Let's go Snoop-Dogg-with-the-Olympic-Torch wacky[1] and say Pocahontas earned 10x that in merch sales. Humor me. So Pocahontas has earned $8B.

So consumers are willing to part with 2.5 times as much money for Cars as for Pocahontas. And it's probably 7x TBH.

Cars has multiple theatrical sequels. They could easily make more. Pocahontas has had none. It has no clear future.

I'm not saying Cars is the perfect franchise. I'm not saying I agree with IP in the parks. But c'mon given what we know about how the company makes decisions about the parks, this is as clear-cut as it gets.

[1] In all sincerity, I have never been more proud to be an American than that moment.
 

UNCgolf

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The Cars movie franchise has generated $21.5 billion in merch and ticket sales.

Unless I'm reading that wrong, Cars is the highest-grossing Disney franchise without an actual ride in Walt Disney World.

This NYT article from 2023 says Pocahontas has earned about $707 million in ticket sales. Let's go Snoop-Dogg-with-the-Olympic-Torch wacky[1] and say Pocahontas earned 10x that in merch sales. Humor me. So Pocahontas has earned $8B.

So consumers are willing to part with 2.5 times as much money for Cars as for Pocahontas. And it's probably 7x TBH.

Cars has multiple theatrical sequels. They could easily make more. Pocahontas has had none. It has no clear future.

I'm not saying Cars is the perfect franchise. I'm not saying I agree with IP in the parks. But c'mon given what we know about how the company makes decisions about the parks, this is as clear-cut as it gets.

[1] In all sincerity, I have never been more proud to be an American than that moment.

I think there are two different discussions here. Framing it as this was obviously the move Disney was going to make... I mean, yeah. I've made similar arguments before. Disney is going to do what they think is going to make them the most money in the short-term.

That doesn't automatically mean it was the right move long-term, though (or even short-term). Companies get that stuff wrong all the time; even majorly successful companies like Apple.

Regardless, discussing whether it was the best business move is a different discussion from whether people actually like it or how it will affect other things.
 
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EPCOTCenterLover

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Well, in all this, I'm still a huge fan of Imagineering. Of course I'll go see the Magic Kingdom's transformation. But I'll be at Epic Universe and Universal Orlando Resort too now. Because they are proving they can create attractions every bit as good with theming just as great. If Disney keeps lowering the bar on their side, so be it. It's just too bad.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Well, in all this, I'm still a huge fan of Imagineering. Of course I'll go see the Magic Kingdom's transformation. But I'll be at Epic Universe and Universal Orlando Resort too now. Because they are proving they can create attractions every bit as good with theming just as great. If Disney keeps lowering the bar on their side, so be it. It's just too bad.

I find Universal is becoming more like Disney and Disney more like Universal.

It's Disney's loss IMO.
 

Yellow Strap

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Clearly not enough. The version of the guardians that’s in Epcot will never be a thing again it was just a moment in time like Back to the future. In 5 years the theme of the attraction will be as dated as Captain EO is now

And you completely misunderstood what I wrote about Star Wars.
I'll take that bet on Guardians...
 

Quietmouse

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Well, in all this, I'm still a huge fan of Imagineering. Of course I'll go see the Magic Kingdom's transformation. But I'll be at Epic Universe and Universal Orlando Resort too now. Because they are proving they can create attractions every bit as good with theming just as great. If Disney keeps lowering the bar on their side, so be it. It's just too bad.

Universal obtaining the Nintendo ip for rides is truly the secret sauce. My kids don’t really care about much of universal stuff aside from maybe dr.suess and minions and a few other things…but Nintendo they love Mario, and princess peach and donkey Kong.

They don’t care about Harry Potter but man do they love Mario.

It’s really something that can rival many of Disney famous ips and appeals to both little children and adults and why I’m excited to visit universal again.
 

EeyoreFan#24

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That makes total sense. I worry what will happen when/if Chevy pulls their sponsorship. Funny how Disney used to feel more "Disney" when other companies sponsored attractions 🤔 Too bad that didn't work out as well with Cirque du Soleil though.

Since Chevy continued to sponsor test track, Disney couldn’t install IP at will. So Disney at least had the idea/capability to put cars in TT if Chevy pulled their investment.

Chevys continued support of an attraction refresh sounds like the problem.

Chevy killed the ROAs.





JK - just in case.
 

radiorae

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I’ll reserve judgement until I see more concept art. I think it’s very easy to get wound up using the images they’ve given us so far because they’re so busy. They look loud. The Birds Eye view is straight up chaos. But i think from the ground, on the perimeter by liberty square or CBJ looking in, it’ll be much more peaceful and fitting than people are expecting. With the mountains and trees and water, it’ll be really pretty to walk up to. People forget that half of the point of Cars 1 and 3 was about going back to a quiet time and enjoying the slow life, taking it easy to enjoy the beauty around you. I suspect they’re going to try very hard to preserve that sense of peace a lot of us are afraid of losing with the river/liberty belle/TSI gone.

And I’ll bet money now that the car noises and “ka-chows” will be from in-car speakers that can’t be heard elsewhere, so anyone fretting about Mater extolling the virtues of quality mud flaps while they’re trying to enjoy their turkey leg in peace need not worry.
 

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