News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Tha Realest]

Or... It's an island that gets 400 visitors a day being replaced by two rides that will be experienced by 15,000 a day.

But you know, stir the culture wars pot instead if ya want

It’s entirely possible to do each of these things:
1) repurpose TSI footprint towards a more optimal use
2) shorten ROA to retain the current riverfront along LS
3) keep the rest of LS

But that requires a bit of creativity! No one can explain why Carsland can’t coexist alongside Liberty Square with a largely intact ROA separating the two.

 

[SoFloMagic]

I agree with tsi but muppets is not always empty.

Feels like it's emptier than the door coaster will be.

Mind you, I don't want it to leave. But I also haven't been in there in my last 20 HS visits, so I'm part of the problem

 

[jason976]

I wonder how many people on this thread actually work for Disney and are paid to defend the decision to remove the island and the river.

Is it that difficult for you to believe that there are people that feel differently than you? The answer is we must all be paid? The island and river is not something my family and I care about and we’ve been going for 40 years. Im excited for something new and that doesn’t mean I’m paid by Disney.

 

[SoFloMagic]

This is an absolutely hilarious comment. 15,000 people a day for two rides across even a short, ten hour day would be absolutely atrocious capacity and nowhere near worth the cost.

Then make the number bigger and make my point stronger.

 

[danlb_2000]

More information from the Engineering report. This is the coverage for drainage basin L407A-MKRIVCRUN which is the river. The first table is existing, the 2nd proposed. We go from 7.2 acres of water to .82 acres.

 

[the_rich]

Feels like it's emptier than the door coaster will be.

Mind you, I don't want it to leave. But I also haven't been in there in my last 20 HS visits, so I'm part of the problem

I'm sure it will have less traffic than the doors coaster. But it isn't on the same level as tsi. It's been mostly full every time I've went. Its serves much more of a purpose in hs than tsi does in mk. And it's not like I have some special affinity for muppets, I just think it'll be a loss of capacity that they don't need.

 

[Disnutz311]

Who specifically did you reach out to? I’ll definitely make a case for the rivers.

guest.services@disneyworld.com
I called as well
I also know of 3 Imagineers that I wrote emails to (Not sharing addresses)
Would be interesting if somebody would try first and last name email combos for higher ups to see what goes through

If you have a voice people, then use it! Stopped CBJ from going away! But them announcing location today and also dropping permits show how scared/uncaring they are.

 

[SoFloMagic]

I'm sure it will have less traffic than the doors coaster. But it isn't on the same level as tsi. It's been mostly full every time I've went. Its serves much more of a purpose in hs than tsi does in mk. And it's not like I have some special affinity for muppets, I just think it'll be a loss of capacity that they don't need.

That's good to hear.

I was a supporter of the animation courtyard location, but the sightlines would likely be terrible if they put it there.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'm sure it will have less traffic than the doors coaster. But it isn't on the same level as tsi. It's been mostly full every time I've went. Its serves much more of a purpose in hs than tsi does in mk. And it's not like I have some special affinity for muppets, I just think it'll be a loss of capacity that they don't need.

The other issue is that there's not 1:1 overlap. There are people who would do Muppets who won't do Door Coaster for whatever reason (age, height restriction, motion sickness, etc.), and DHS is already full of thrill rides. It needs more stuff like Muppets; not less.

 

[Streetway]

guest.services@disneyworld.com
I called as well
I also know of 3 Imagineers that I wrote emails to (Not sharing addresses)
Would be interesting if somebody would try first and last name email combos for higher ups to see what goes through

If you have a voice people, then use it! Stopped CBJ from going away! But them announcing location today and also dropping permits show how scared/uncaring they are.

Use it muppetvision too

 

[eddie104]

I think I'm starting to get Iger's disdain for WDW now...

Yeah he clearly has favorites and it’s definitely not WDW.

Now I understand why people want him gone so bad.

This is my overall opinion as of now concerning this project…

 

[jason976]

I'm sure it will have less traffic than the doors coaster. But it isn't on the same level as tsi. It's been mostly full every time I've went. Its serves much more of a purpose in hs than tsi does in mk. And it's not like I have some special affinity for muppets, I just think it'll be a loss of capacity that they don't need.

I admit I don’t visit Muppets every visit, but when I do, it’s always pretty full.

I just want muppets in the park. If Mv3D leaves, I’ll be fine if there’s a solid replacement somewhere.

 

[danlb_2000]

It also omits all interior water, JC and all castle moats. I wonder if that’s because there connected to the ROA system? (I think)

There is a map in the permits that shows how the drainage connects and it seems to indicate that the castle and JC water ways are isolated.

 

[the_rich]

The other issue is that there's not 1:1 overlap. There are people who would do Muppets who won't do Door Coaster for whatever reason (age, height restriction, motion sickness, etc.), and DHS is already full of thrill rides. It needs more stuff like Muppets; not less.

I'm probably not gonna do monsters. The idea of a floorless coaster isn't too appealing to me. But I am excited for other people to ride it and I also want to see how they recreate montstropolis.

 

[KDM31091]

Or... It's an island that gets 400 visitors a day being replaced by two rides that will be experienced by 15,000 a day.

But you know, stir the culture wars pot instead if ya want

Why can’t we have both?

Instead of yet another thing to make the parks more stressful and chaotic.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'm probably not gonna do monsters. The idea of a floorless coaster isn't too appealing to me. But I am excited for other people to ride it and I also want to see how they recreate montstropolis.

This is exactly why it should be an expansion and not a replacement (I wouldn't really consider Animation Courtyard a replacement since there's basically nothing there now).

It would be good for the park to have as an addition, even if I think a coaster isn't really the ideal build for DHS at the moment (it needs multiple attractions that will draw from a wider base). If it replaces a non-thrill attraction, it might actually hurt the park from a crowding/capacity/long lines standpoint.

 

[phillip9698]

It’s entirely possible to do each of these things:
1) repurpose TSI footprint towards a more optimal use
2) shorten ROA to retain the current riverfront along LS
3) keep the rest of LS

But that requires a bit of creativity! No one can explain why Carsland can’t coexist alongside Liberty Square with a largely intact ROA separating the two.

No one can explain why ROA/TSI should even remain other than it’s already there. The place is a ghost town.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Ever wonder why a day at the Studios can feel exhausting? There's no green, shaded, and water filled area to enjoy and destress.

 

[WDWhopper]

A lot of people forget the a good portion of land Disney owns in Florida is wetlands or swamps which requires heavy investment and mitigation to make it suitable for building.

Wait, they were building lame attractions in the 80s?

Splash Mountain, Spaceship Earth, World of Motion, Horizons, Journey into Imagination, Universe of Energy, the Great Movie Ride... 80s was a golden era!

I was thinking more along the lines of the Tiki Room “Under New Management fiasco, the removal of 20k Leagues Submarine mistake at WDW and at Disneyland the Light Magic “Parade” replacing the iconic Main Street Electrical Parade and Rocket Rods replacing the People Mover.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I just learned that they have to do this because they’re losing the patent license for Tom Sawyer Island and it shows up in too many pictures.