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Captain Marvel 2: "The Marvels" -- Nov 10, 2023 Theatrical Release
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Disstevefan1
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Not sure if this is fake news or not, but apparently is mostly male Marvel fans buying tickets to the Marvels and its the girls not showing at the theaters?
You mean like HuffPo today blaming racism and misogyny for the films failure?
The only thing getting old is the excuses for bad films.
People didn’t see it because it sucks.
Very simple.
doctornick
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I'm just confused as to why anyone would think that The Marvels is "woke" or somehow pushing any sort of agenda. I mean, it obviously has female leads, but it doesn't make any sort of grand statements; it's actually a rather generic Marvel/superhero film.
If people don't think it looks interesting and don't want to see it, that's fine. And if people think that Disney as a company is pushing progressive ideology and don't want to support them for it, I mean, okay it's your money. But The Marvels is a rather poor example of something being "woke".
If people don't think it looks interesting and don't want to see it, that's fine. And if people think that Disney as a company is pushing progressive ideology and don't want to support them for it, I mean, okay it's your money. But The Marvels is a rather poor example of something being "woke".
Disstevefan1
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MoonRakerSCM
Well-Known Member
The Critical Drinker has a great take on the film posted yesterday going over and breaking down the claim of 'misogynist man babies hate the film'. A good watch.
Ghost93
Well-Known Member
It is a bad movie. Wokeness is not why it's bad though, as the Fox News article suggested.
When a bad comic book featuring a white man flops (Shazam 2, Morbius, etc.). people rightfully call it a flop due to bad filmmaking. When a bad comic book movie featuring a woman or a person of color flops, suddenly "going woke" is the problem. I'm just tired of the double standard.
I'm sorry you made this error. It is a good movie.
Disstevefan1
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Willmark
Well-Known Member
Why are Ripley or Sarah Connors bad examples?
Also, should the fact that it’s 40 years ago matter?
Ghost93
Well-Known Member
I will defend the stars of the movie, and I will defend it from stupid criticisms like "wokeness." But I am not going to pretend its a masterpiece. If you enjoyed it, I am happy for you. For me, it was the third weakest movie in the MCU, behind only Thor: Love and Thunder and Ant-man and the Wasp Quantumania.
MoonRakerSCM
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I've seen this tossed around and haven't seen anyone denying it. I think it's something like 65% of tickets are males in the 20-40 range? So essentially it's a meteic showing that the 'misogynist cry baby' dudes are actually seeing it and no one else is etc.etc.
That being said, where on earth does this metric come from? Online ticket sale accounts registered as male? What about the guests that they purchase for and go see it with? I am quite skeptical of that number and where it comes from/actually represents.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
I would like to know how this data is collected. Maybe it is fake news.
One thing that is not fake news is that Disney is spending too much to make and market their movies.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Its based on the same metrics that determine the Cinemascore, ie those that take a survey at various theaters around the nation.
Just like any survey/poll, its only as good as its sampling size. So its not infallible.
MoonRakerSCM
Well-Known Member
Ah, alrighty then. So, the fact is, it's not misogynistic males not going to see the film and any article claiming as such is fake news.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I wouldn't say its fake news, I'm sure there is a bit of that going on too.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
My opinion does not matter I am not a film critic.In your opinion, why does it suck?
However the general consensus is clearly that the film sucks.
This MUST be true unless:
1: This current iteration of Marvel is dead and it’s time to hit the reset button.
Or
2: People are skipping the movie because of “wokeness.”
_caleb
Well-Known Member
I mean, it's a discussion board, so "why do you think that thing you just posted?" seems like a relevant question.
And does it have to be either/or on your two options?
Tha Realest
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Weirdly, The Marvels weaknesses are Hunger Games strengths, in terms of the audience that’s turned out so far.
