Were you aware that Iger wasn’t the only one noting the weather as a cause for soft attendance to amusement parks this year?
Yes, this is how Marvel has been picking a lot of its directors for years and years - folks with one well-regarded film, often an indie. It’s fundamental to the entire MCU method."When she signed on for The Marvels, DaCosta had released just one feature, an indie made for less than $1 million that was galaxies away from a superhero blockbuster."
Even 'The Marvels' director Nia DaCosta is confused by the MCU: 'What the hell does any of this s--- mean?'
"The Marvels" director Nia DaCosta told Vanity Fair while making the "Captain Marvel" sequel that even she was confused about what's happening in the MCU.www.insider.com
Nia DaCosta, Barrier-Breaking Director of The Marvels, on Navigating the Blockbuster Machine
“The thing I’ve been most surprised by lately,” says the filmmaker, who broke through with the horror hit Candyman, “is how much respect I’ve been getting from these middle-aged white dudes.”www.vanityfair.com
Phase 4 was 7 films and, and here's the breakdown
Seems like the recriminations and excuses are beginning early."When she signed on for The Marvels, DaCosta had released just one feature, an indie made for less than $1 million that was galaxies away from a superhero blockbuster."
Even 'The Marvels' director Nia DaCosta is confused by the MCU: 'What the hell does any of this s--- mean?'
"The Marvels" director Nia DaCosta told Vanity Fair while making the "Captain Marvel" sequel that even she was confused about what's happening in the MCU.
Nia DaCosta, Barrier-Breaking Director of The Marvels, on Navigating the Blockbuster Machine
“The thing I’ve been most surprised by lately,” says the filmmaker, who broke through with the horror hit Candyman, “is how much respect I’ve been getting from these middle-aged white dudes.”
You’re contorting yourself in absurd ways to try and prove a point that isn’t viable. Trying to limit it to “phase 4,” which even the most dedicated fans don’t read as a coherent unit thanks to the lack of an Avengers, is a nakedly arbitrary attempt to exclude Guardians, Ant-Man, and Far From Home, which all weaken your point. Saying that Multiverse of Madness and Thor aren’t “white male lead” films is such a stretch as to be dishonest. America Chavez in MoM is a McGuffin who gets almost no characterization and I’m not even sure what you’re thinking with Thor. Both focus on the white male lead more than many typical action-adventure films, which often feature a major romantic angle. Come on.
However it is true to the comic's story line, as the Capt. America mantel has passed to Bucky and Falcon in the past.
Had to swap and I agree they get a pass for this, but like the long term story line of his son taking the mantle
How the heck is someone who made one low budget indie movie suppost to understand how to make a huge blockbuster movie? Why does Disney keep giving this kind of responsibility to people with no experience?"When she signed on for The Marvels, DaCosta had released just one feature, an indie made for less than $1 million that was galaxies away from a superhero blockbuster."
Even 'The Marvels' director Nia DaCosta is confused by the MCU: 'What the hell does any of this s--- mean?'
"The Marvels" director Nia DaCosta told Vanity Fair while making the "Captain Marvel" sequel that even she was confused about what's happening in the MCU.
Nia DaCosta, Barrier-Breaking Director of The Marvels, on Navigating the Blockbuster Machine
“The thing I’ve been most surprised by lately,” says the filmmaker, who broke through with the horror hit Candyman, “is how much respect I’ve been getting from these middle-aged white dudes.”
I don’t really disagree with any of this…
Counterpoint: These directors know that ceding control is part of the deal from the start. I don’t think they fold as much as they see a big paycheck, the prestige of having their name attached to a big title, and hope it goes well enough to expand their professional options. (Or more likely it cripples their promising careers. Hello, Chloe Zhao)
That is why they sign on until they realize they don't have the skill set for something that big.
They're not avoiding big directors because they're cheap. The MCU is producer driven. It's a profoundly collaboratively creative process. They absolutely don't WANT dominant individual voices. They've been criticized for this, but it was a conscious choice that produced an absolutely unprecedented string of huge hits.
You don't think the Flerkin feeding hour....aka cat live stream, on the Marvel You Tube channel won't counteract that?
You’re honestly going to suggest You, Me and Dupree wasn’t the biggest blockbuster of 2006? That Community didn’t have a stable, prime time slot, high ratings and eager renewals?
I'm really not. Adding in phase 5 doesn't weaken my point at all. Guardians is a fairly diverse cast and antman features Cassie, Janet and hope. Spiderman is again the one that really isn't all that diverse. I can't help that your idea of diversity is to eliminate white men.
I didn't say they weren't white lead. They weren't just focused on the white lead. Isn't that how it should be? Your philosophy on this seems to be to eliminate the white male heroes. And I would ask why? Thor is an extremely popular character, with EVERYONE, not just white males. So why not make that movie and add in some diversity? I don't think it's fair to eliminate that as diversity. Or doctor strange where they made Wanda a major focus of the film. It was very much a continuation of her show.
First off, I think you need to do a bit of research on Oscar, he's not a white male. To each their own but Wanda was the headliner of that show as Falcon was the headliner of that show in my opinion. But again because theirs a white male in the show it's no longer diverse in your mind? Hawkeye was the lead, like I said, but Kate was a huge part of it.
This is where you are missing. Disney HAS made a big move to be more diverse. They've made the traditional "white male" character share time with a much more diverse cast. All while they've made a lot of diverse projects. Like I've said with the star wars discussion and with marvel. It's not the diversity that's the problem, it's the quality. And what happens with the shaky quality? People think you are putting diversity over quality and that's why you get the "pandering" argument. My argument to you is to stop lumping all fans as diversity hating jerks. Are there some? Of course! It's the Internet. I just don't buy your, the fanbase is the problem mantra for all these franchises. As a whole, they aren't. Disney doesn't have a fan problem, they have a quality problem. And that quality problem makes it seem like they are checking boxes rather than making quality entertainment. Just because you have diversity, doesn't make something good, see the eternals. The same holds true for white male projects. There was a lot of people complaining about Hulk, Iron man 2, Thor 2, ultron... So why weren't those fans all considered toxic?
Where the HECK do you get the idea that my idea of diversity is eliminating white men? That’s madness. What you’re doing is seeing women or non-white actors in secondary or co-leading roles and labeling the cast ”diverse.” This is absurd on the face of it - you could, by that logic, go back through Hollywood’s output in the 30s and 40s and talk about how “diverse” the casts were. Things that - in, say, 2010 - would have seemed unremarkable, like a sitcom pastiche like WandaVision having one male and one female lead (there co-headliners, it’s in the name) or a villain like Wanda getting screen time in an action-adventure like MoM, are now seen as abnormal and “diverse” because a loud and powerful group of culture warriors are labeling them so.
