Captain America 4

[erasure fan1]

This is where we go back to just agreeing to disagree. As I'll never just automatically see reshoots as been an "issue".

That's why I wondered why you brought it up and questioned me. You especially, know how I view reshoots.

So maybe take your own advice and don't automatically assume that something is negative just because it differs from your point-of-view.

You knew we went back and forth on this point. You knew my stance on the topic, I'm sure you remembered it as it wasn't that long ago. At that point why not ask, are you talking about the same issues you had before, or something new? Then I know. So is it out of the realm that I would think that?

I know we aren't going to agree on this topic. You know we aren't going to agree. So it's an odd thing to bring back up.

 

[Disney Irish]

That's why I wondered why you brought it up and questioned me. You especially, know how I view reshoots.

You knew we went back and forth on this point. You knew my stance on the topic, I'm sure you remembered it as it wasn't that long ago. At that point why not ask, are you talking about the same issues you had before, or something new? Then I know. So is it out of the realm that I would think that?

I know we aren't going to agree on this topic. You know we aren't going to agree. So it's an odd thing to bring back up.

As I said I didn't know what you meant which is why I asked. I didn't want to assume this was back to the same thing we talked about previously. So maybe don't assume yourself that I'm automatically knowing what you're talking about.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I really don't think Falcon and the Winter Soldier is required viewing for this movie. Sam was given Captain America's shield in Endgame. Falcon and the Winter Soldier gave him some more character development and elaborated on how he came to accept taking on the Captain America mantle, but I think someone could easily go into this without feeling like they need to watch his show.

This isn't like Multiverse of Madness, where viewers who skipped WandaVision would be completely confused as to why Wanda is a witch, why she has two children and why she's gone crazy.

I think this will be a make or break element of this movie, how they get people up to speed will matter, purely conjecture on my part but based on the trailer the older black guy being an experimental super soldier who was then cast aside by the program looks like it’s going to be a major emotional component and will likely be foundational to the who, what, when, where, and why of the story. If they can quickly convey that backstory it won’t matter, if they gloss over it (or just assume people will know) I think they’re going to lose a lot of the impact.

 

[DCBaker]

Here's a special look and new poster for Captain America: Brave New World:

 

[Ghost93]

That's a really cool poster.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

I feel like they’re hiding Samuel Sterns/Leader because they fear people will troll Disney and Marvel Studios over his non-CG practical bulging head in his look.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

That poster. Why is everyone else IN FRONT OF THE HERO?!?!

Also, having a gun be the front object of a Captain America poster? In front of the shield, too?

 

[MickeyMouse10]

This maybe the biggest flop everrrrr! Thanks to the many reshoots they had to do. The budget has gotten so high it has to make over a billion dollars, to make any semblance of profit. And judging from the quality of the trailers... it isn't.

I don't understand why they keep getting people that don't know what they are doing. The director didn't even know that Captain Falcon isn't a super soldier. This is why they showed him block the red hulk with his shield in trailers and promos. He'd be squashed like a bug. There'd be nothing left of him if any hulk smashed him.

 

[MickeyMouse10]

Also he should have fought Hydra Captain America. Fighting Hulk villains makes no sense whatsoever!!!

Get comic nerds to make your Marvel stuff Disney, not the unskilled.

 

[Ghost93]

, my biggest concern is that the movie will feature the same writers as the Falcon and the Winter Soldier — a show I didn't care for. I also think Sam isn't as compelling as Marvel's best heroes. Don't know whether that is due to the writing or Anthony Mackie lacking the necessary charisma for a leading role in this type of film. I hope I'll be won over with this new movie.

 

[Disney Irish]

Also he should have fought Hydra Captain America.

You mean the same basic story they already told in Falcon and The Winter Solider?

 

[BrianLo]

I hadn’t seen the budget on this one yet. 375?

Yikes, it has a drastically steep uphill climb. If it wants to not be one of Disney’s worst performers ever it needs to clear about 350M In the BO and maybe 700 to break even (its budget won’t be as in lock step with other parts of its spend, given the former is so atypically inflated).

I’m not optimistic and I’m also not excited for this film.

 

[JackCH]

I hadn’t seen the budget on this one yet. 375?

Yes, it has a drastically steep uphill climb. If it wants to not be one of Disney’s worst performers ever it needs to clear about 350M In the BO and maybe 700 to break even (its budget won’t be as in lock step with other parts of its spend, given the former is so atypically inflated).

I’m not optimistic and I’m also not excited for this film.

Star Wars and Marvel need to pause, take a breath, and figure out what the heck is going on lol.

 

[Tiggerish]

, my biggest concern is that the movie will feature the same writers as the Falcon and the Winter Soldier — a show I didn't care for. I also think Sam isn't as compelling as Marvel's best heroes. Don't know whether that is due to the writing or Anthony Mackie lacking the necessary charisma for a leading role in this type of film. I hope I'll be won over with this new movie.

Anthony Mackie does not lack charisma.

 

[Phroobar]

Anthony Mackie does not lack charisma.

He was good in Twisted Metal.

 

[Alice a]

Anthony Mackie does not lack charisma.

He doesn’t at all, which is why it’s been so frustrating seeing the 2-dimensional character that’s been written for him in the films and series.

Sebastian Stan is possibly the hottest man alive, so I watched Falcon and Winter Soldier twice trying to like it, but both characters were just so wooden and predictable, and both actors are way better than that.

I mean, the therapy scene should have been as funny as the scenes between Mackie and Stan in Civil War, and they weren’t even close.

 

[erasure fan1]

Anthony Mackie does not lack charisma.

I agree. I think the problem, I know for me at least, is that I'm really not sold on him being Cap. I loved him as Falcon and I would have preferred to see that character grow into a top tier hero. I feel like they're short changing the character . I really hope the film is good. I'm just not overly optimistic.

 

[Tiggerish]

Sebastian Stan is possibly the hottest man alive

Only when he’s not sporting long, stringy, greasy hair.

I watched Falcon and Winter Soldier twice trying to like it, but both characters were just so wooden and predictable, and both actors are way better than that.

Same, and I agree with you

 

[Tiggerish]

I agree. I think the problem, I know for me at least, is that I'm really not sold on him being Cap. I loved him as Falcon and I would have preferred to see that character grow into a top tier hero. I feel like they're short changing the character . I really hope the film is good. I'm just not overly optimistic.

I’m ok with him being Cap, my husband tells me it happened that way in the comics decades ago, but I am sorry to see Falcon sidelined. Like you, I thought the character was great and Mackie was perfect in the role.

It’s like the Captain America mantle weighs too heavily on him. Maybe it was that way in the original stories, I dunno.

 

[TalkingHead]

What is the prime age range for MCU now? Something like 25-50?