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[Casper Gutman]

Basically this, Deadpool stands on its own in a lot of ways.

Almost no movie in the history of cinema has "stood on its own" LESS then Deadpool & Wolverine.

 

[Willmark]

I'm not guessing intentions here.

You are.

I'm just saying that you wouldn't be coming in here touting how you called DP&W a success prior to it release.

Here was my stance nearly a year ago. Looks like I was even more optimistic then:

 

[Disney Irish]

Ahhh now we’re getting somewhere.

IMO, DP & W is almost stand alone from the MCU as in there is that than the rest of the MCU.

I suspect the Deadpool has additional folks to pull in who might not go to say the Marvels by way of example.

Except its not standalone its quite literally sold as DP&W entry into the MCU, you literally having DP calling himself Marvel Jesus. So no matter how you personally felt about it, everyone was going to tie it to the MCU.

 

[Disney Irish]

You are.


Here was my stance nearly a year ago. Looks like I was even more optimistic then:
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Again I'm not guessing intention. You're telling me you honestly would have been coming to this thread talking about how you called DP&W a guaranteed success, literally calling out $1B, had it failed? Come on... Of course you wouldn't.

 

[Prince-1]

Sorry but there is no movie, in the history of movies, that was a guarantee hit when it came out. D&W seemed like it had everything needed to make it a huge success but it still had the potential to underperform for a variety of reasons.

 

[Willmark]

Again I'm not guessing intention. You're telling me you honestly would have been coming to this thread talking about how your called DP&W a guaranteed success, literally calling out $1B, had it failed? Come on... Of course you wouldn't.

I wouldn’t and didn’t say anything at all especially now because it really doesn’t matter all that much.

I took a huge step back from posting here and read far more than comment these days. Not planning a trip anytime soon and I am very apathetic with SW despite giving Mandolorian, Book of Boba Fett, Obi-wan and the Acolyte time in watching. All the way through for all of those series. But at this stage no hate, more meh.

Marvels output is similar to me, but not as bad. As noted Daredevil has some interest despite not being in my upper tier of favorites.

Looking at my original post. I have no idea what the movies this year will do other than guesses. That’s all any of us can do really. If people want to get worked up? Don’t know what to tell them.

2023 was a bad year for Marvel
2024 was a good year for Marvel
2025 ?

 

[Casper Gutman]

Sorry but there is no movie, in the history of movies, that was a guarantee hit when it came out. D&W seemed like it had everything needed to make it a huge success but it still had the potential to underperform for a variety of reasons.

Also, a studio developing, marketing, and releasing a film that seems guaranteed to please audiences and make money is WHAT STUDIOS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I wouldn’t and didn’t say anything at all especially now because it really doesn’t matter all that much.

I took a huge step back from posting here and read far more than comment these days. Not planning a trip anytime soon and I am very apathetic with SW despite giving Mandolorian, Book of Boba Fett, Obi-wan and the Acolyte time in watching. All the way through for all of those series. But at this stage no hate, more meh.

Marvels output is similar to me, but not as bad. As noted Daredevil has some interest despite not being in my upper tier of favorites.

Looking at my original post. I have no idea what the movies this year will do other than guesses. That’s all any of us can do really. If people want to get worked up? Don’t know what to tell them.

2023 was a bad year for Marvel
2024 was a good year for Marvel
2025 ?

So odd that you didn't mention the two exceptionally good Star Wars programs, Andor and Skeleton Crew. I won't try and guess your intentions.

 

[Willmark]

So odd that you didn't mention the two exceptionally good Star Wars programs, Andor and Skeleton Crew. I won't try and guess your intentions.

Or perhaps I haven’t gotten to them yet? That’s the problem with guessing,
You just don’t know do you?

Andor is a likely one; Skeleton Crew has not really garnered my interest for whatever reason.

 

[Disney Irish]

I wouldn’t and didn’t say anything at all especially now because it really doesn’t matter all that much.

I took a huge step back from posting here and read far more than comment these days. Not planning a trip anytime soon and I am very apathetic with SW despite giving Mandolorian, Book of Boba Fett, Obi-wan and the Acolyte time in watching. All the way through for all of those series. But at this stage no hate, more meh.

Marvels output is similar to me, but not as bad. As noted Daredevil has some interest despite not being in my upper tier of favorites.

Looking at my original post. I have no idea what the movies this year will do other than guesses. That’s all any of us can do really. If people want to get worked up? Don’t know what to tell them.

2023 was a bad year for Marvel
2024 was a good year for Marvel
2025 ?

I'm not getting worked up, I'm just pointing out and agreeing with other posters that NO movies are a guaranteed success no matter how we personally might feel about it months or even years prior to its release. All movies are a gamble, if they weren't then every movie would be making $1B+ and no movie would fail.

Again I don't have to guess intentions to know that no one is coming into another thread for another movie touting how they called a different movie a success months prior if it had failed. It just wouldn't happen.

As for the rest, just like in previous years we'll have to see how the MCU does. Some could succeed and some could fail, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Willmark]

I'm not getting worked up, I'm just pointing out and agreeing with other posters that NO movies are a guaranteed success no matter how we personally might feel about it months or even years prior to its release. All movies are a gamble, if they weren't then every movie would be making $1B+ and no movie would fail.

I’ve got nothing else to add, you see it one way I see it another.

Again I don't have to guess intentions to know that no one is coming into another thread for another movie touting how they called a different movie a success months prior if it had failed. It just wouldn't happen.

If I’m wrong and in this case a movie projection I have no issue owning up to it. Quick example: I thought for sure Patrick Mahomes was going to be a massive bust and the Chiefs were fools for trading up to get him.

Yeah…

As for the rest, just like in previous years we'll have to see how the MCU does. Some could succeed and some could fail, we'll just have to wait and see.

Which also what I said.

 

[Disney Irish]

Honestly I think they might have a point dead pool has A specific audience that may not necessarily be interested in the rest of the mcu I still think fantastic 4 will make a huge amount of money
and the Mcu dead narrative is overblown but there were probably a lot of people who went to see it just because they found it funny.

Every Marvel film has a built-in audience, its why they do still sell tickets even if it doesn't get mass appeal. The only question is if it has wide enough mass appeal to be considered a success. And as mentioned there is no movie that is a guarantee in that regard, every movie has the potential to fail to find an audience and DP&W was no different. Again it doesn't matter how we personally feel about it. I personally might feel that every MCU film is going to make $1B+, it doesn't make it true. For example I thought Black Panther 2 was going to make $1B+ and said so in its thread many times, but it didn't.

As I said hindsight is always 20/20, you only get it 100% right all the time if you already know the outcome.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’ve got nothing else to add, you see it one way I see it another.

If I’m wrong and in this case a movie projection I have no issue owning up to it. Quick example: I thought for sure Patrick Mahomes was going to be a massive bust and the Chiefs were fools for trading up to get him.

Yeah…


Which also what I said.

I think we're just talking past each other at this point, time to move on.

I'm happy that you saw DP&W as a success months before its release. Many of us felt the same at the time. So you're in good company there.

 

[Alice a]

Sorry but there is no movie, in the history of movies, that was a guarantee hit when it came out. D&W seemed like it had everything needed to make it a huge success but it still had the potential to underperform for a variety of reasons.

I’d say the Harry Potter movies were as close to certain hits as you can get, with the staggering popularity of the books.

(At least since Rowling retained enough creative control to keep the studio from setting it in America as they had initially wanted…)

 

[BrianLo]

I’d say the Harry Potter movies were as close to certain hits as you can get, with the staggering popularity of the books.

(At least since Rowling retained enough creative control to keep the studio from setting it in America as they had initially wanted…)

But then there was Fantastic Beasts…

Potter definitely was not guaranteed. The last few decades are littered with adaptions from source material that was quite botched. Potter succeeded in part because they did it justice.

 

[Prince-1]

But then there was Fantastic Beasts…

Potter definitely was not guaranteed. The last few decades are littered with adaptions from source material that was quite botched. Potter succeeded in part because they did it justice.

You beat me to it. HP was definitely going to bring in money but it was not guaranteed to be the juggernaut that it was. And Fantastic Beasts absolutely failed to live up to what came before it. It was supposed to be a five movie event and it fizzled out after the third one. But FB did have some extra baggage that HP didn't have such as Rowling's very vocal unfortunate opinions and Johnny Depp's legal issues.

 

[networkpro]

Cap4 has some unfavorable optics working against its success now. When the star of the new movie comes out and basically says he's the Anti-Sam Eagle, its time to reconsider calling it something else.

 

[Disney Irish]

Cap4 has some unfavorable optics working against its success now. When the star of the new movie comes out and basically says he's the Anti-Sam Eagle, its time to reconsider calling it something else.

That is not at all what was said or the sentiment shown by the actor.

 

[Chi84]

Cap4 has some unfavorable optics working against its success now. When the star of the new movie comes out and basically says he's the Anti-Sam Eagle, it’s time to reconsider calling it something else.

He didn’t say anything that could in any way be interpreted to mean this.

ETA: Having read your post a few times I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

 

[Phroobar]

He didn’t say anything that could in any way be interpreted to mean this.

ETA: Having read your post a few times I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

I agree with you. People are making a very weird spin on it.