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MickeyMouse10

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Disney Irish

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Funny, all those quite literally are from one single source which has been called out as being a hack that misrepresents that budget numbers. So this doesn’t prove what you think it does.
 

MisterPenguin

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What happened to using Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, and Variety as your sources?
 

Agent H

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LOL, that isn't the actual budget. They lie and say a low number and you guys all believe it. Then 2 years later they have to unveil the truth and you move onto the next bomb to defend.
I hate to use the word troll to describe people I don’t agree with (this isn’t YouTube) si si ne sawa after all but this guy definitely is one
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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LOL, that isn't the actual budget. They lie and say a low number and you guys all believe it. Then 2 years later they have to unveil the truth and you move onto the next bomb to defend.
I don’t believe that one

But didn’t you know the sec watches Disneys movie budgets…so they can’t lie?

That sounds like a really bad joke until you’ve been around enough to realize many actually think that 😳
 

Casper Gutman

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The section below is from a long article on Vulture regarding Hollywood's struggles with recent national developments. I'm not going to post a link, but the section below seems relevant (it also includes brief discussions of Win or Lose and Snow White.)

"In a more pressing example of what’s to come in 2025, there is Marvel’s Captain: America: Brave New World, which before June 2023 was titled Captain America: New World Order. (The change was taken as an implicit response to the IRL “New World Order” conspiracy theory gaining traction in right-wing extremist corners of the internet; it posits the existence of a secret global elite conspiring to implement a totalitarian one-world government.) Early test screenings of Brave New World, which hits theaters February 14, were reportedly disastrous, prompting expensive reshoots with major sequences cut from the film. According to a technical crew member on the film with knowledge of both the screenings and the reshoot process (which also took place last year), the character portrayed by Harrison Ford — Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, a demagogic military leader who morphs into an irrational, orange-hued superhuman — created unforeseen political resonances for the studio in an inaugural year.

“He’s this very powerful general who becomes kind of a fascist and turns into a raging Red Hulk. That was seen as an allusion to Trump,” this source explains. “Disney was realizing, Hey, we’ve been bleeding for a while. Let’s try not to off our core base anymore than we have been over the past couple of years.”"
 

Agent H

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The section below is from a long article on Vulture regarding Hollywood's struggles with recent national developments. I'm not going to post a link, but the section below seems relevant (it also includes brief discussions of Win or Lose and Snow White.)

"In a more pressing example of what’s to come in 2025, there is Marvel’s Captain: America: Brave New World, which before June 2023 was titled Captain America: New World Order. (The change was taken as an implicit response to the IRL “New World Order” conspiracy theory gaining traction in right-wing extremist corners of the internet; it posits the existence of a secret global elite conspiring to implement a totalitarian one-world government.) Early test screenings of Brave New World, which hits theaters February 14, were reportedly disastrous, prompting expensive reshoots with major sequences cut from the film. According to a technical crew member on the film with knowledge of both the screenings and the reshoot process (which also took place last year), the character portrayed by Harrison Ford — Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, a demagogic military leader who morphs into an irrational, orange-hued superhuman — created unforeseen political resonances for the studio in an inaugural year.

“He’s this very powerful general who becomes kind of a fascist and turns into a raging Red Hulk. That was seen as an allusion to Trump,” this source explains. “Disney was realizing, Hey, we’ve been bleeding for a while. Let’s try not to off our core base anymore than we have been over the past couple of years.”"
I have nothing to say to the rest of this but why do people keep bringing up orange HES RED
 

MisterPenguin

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Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, a demagogic military leader who morphs into an irrational, orange-hued superhuman — created unforeseen political resonances for the studio in an inaugural year.

1. And yet, they're still going to show a demagogic monster as president of the U.S. If that was the problem, all those reshoots didn't fix it.

2. Calling the Red Hulk "orange-hue" is laughable. "Red" is in the name. Clearly, this 'source' didn't know what they were talking about.

3. We have better sources saying that a different character in the movie was the source of issues requiring reshoots.
 

Casper Gutman

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1. And yet, they're still going to show a demagogic monster as president of the U.S. If that was the problem, all those reshoots didn't fix it.

2. Calling the Red Hulk "orange-hue" is laughable. "Red" is in the name. Clearly, this 'source' didn't know what they were talking about.

3. We have better sources saying that a different character in the movie was the source of issues requiring reshoots.
There have been multiple rounds of reshoots.

I think picking at the orange/ red distinction is thin. That’s not the kind of distinction the outrage machine would care about and, frankly, if an artist did want to make a political satire (which Marvel was not attempting) red would be as on-the-nose as orange.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Presales seem to be tracking Quantomania which ended with a box office in the $500 million range?

Using the $200 million budget number and 2.5 multiplier Is break even the goalpost on this one?
 

PrinceCharming617

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I used to like Falcon, it's too bad man. They did the same thing with Scarlet Witch. They made them unlikeable and annoying. Falcon's victim speech in his show and being pulled over by the cops was ridiculous. I miss the buddy buddy stuff with Winter Soldier. I don't need another he's being held down storyline. Antman had to work at Baskin Robbins and you don't hear him complaining the way Falcon is.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Thank-you, Nostradamus.
…but that’s what will happen
Presales seem to be tracking Quantomania which ended with a box office in the $500 million range?

Using the $200 million budget number and 2.5 multiplier Is break even the goalpost on this one?
That number does nothing for Disney…doesn’t reinforce their brands or lead to anything else

Overpays Harrison ford…which seems to be their brokeback mountain…

Just can’t quit him
 

MickeyMouse10

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Overpays Harrison ford…which seems to be their brokeback mountain…

Just can’t quit him

Harrison Ford must be getting paid each time, with the 3 or 4 reshoots they've done. They've got like 6 Hours of footage and none of it's good.

He's an awful Thunderbolt Ross, they should have gotten Stephen Lang from Avatar. To play the General version of the character, not the president. I got a genius idea for it too, they could have also had him fight... a Hulk. Why the heck is a Hulk villain in this fighting Captain Falcon??? They also have The leader in this movie (if they kept him) and Betty Ross (if they kept her). She-Hulk was supposed to be in it as well and probably would have been if she didn't accuse Iger of bad things. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
 

Agent H

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DKampy

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Harrison Ford must be getting paid each time, with the 3 or 4 reshoots they've done. They've got like 6 Hours of footage and none of it's good.

He's an awful Thunderbolt Ross, they should have gotten Stephen Lang from Avatar. To play the General version of the character, not the president. I got a genius idea for it too, they could have also had him fight... a Hulk. Why the heck is a Hulk villain in this fighting Captain Falcon??? They also have The leader in this movie (if they kept him) and Betty Ross (if they kept her). She-Hulk was supposed to be in it as well and probably would have been if she didn't accuse Iger of bad things. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
How do you know it was Harrison Ford’s scenes that needed reshoots
 

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