Cameron has given the OK ...

[twebber55]

here are my questions
will th eland be the building only?
how large will the show building be?
will there be exterior theming?
obviously hormay is a great hire for this but will his wrk be inside or out?

thanks and ill hang up and listen

 

[FrankLapidus]

Boo hoo, the insiders are 0 for Avatar and now they are crying.

They have said for a long time that, if Disney got their way, the centrepiece attraction would be one similar to Soarin' (not Soarin' 2.0 before anyone corrects me, I just mean in terms of the screen playing a large part ). So their at least 1 for Avatarland.

 

[Imagineer Mitch]

I think the insiders or anyone who is creative should draw a mockup of the land

 

[Captain Chaos]

Spinning like a top, as usual ....

Until very recently, all we had been hearing about Avatarland was that the project's development was very troubled. Some people, including myself, thought that was good news. That is all it was - a positive reaction to the chances for our desired outcome becoming more favorable. But, given what we know about the nature of Disney rumors, no one believed Avatarland's cancellation was a sure thing. It would have unrealistic for anyone, no matter their opinion, to think that way; the number of those who did commit to that position was negligible if not zero.

Do you honestly think that trying to trash people over semantics reflects positively on you? It doesn't; it just makes you look petty.

Not spinning... Sorry, try again...

People were stating Avatar was dead... I personally don't care what you were saying... People were saying it... I was simply defending the ones who told us the project was limping along and dying a slow death because they were being blamed for people having problems with comprehension... And I said it was on both sides, those who wanted Avatar and those who want stagnant parks and mounds of dirt instead.... As for positive, well Avatar coming is a positive... Remaining stagnant is a negative... So, this is a positive...

And do you really think I care what any of you think of me? LOL.... See, unlike other members of this board, I don't care how things make me look cause none of you matter to me... So, if me saying people were in fact saying this was dead (and they were) makes me look petty, so be it.. Personally, I don't care... If you don't like me or what I have to say, let me let you in on a little secret... It is called IGNORE.. use it... Again, I'll be just fine if you do... cause again, I don't care about you or what you think of me.. My life is just fine... I don't need to try to make up for a lack of something in my life on a website....

 

[Adam5897]

Actually, plenty of your circle were saying they were glad to hear Avatar was dead... And now that the project is still alive, alive and well may I add, the heads of the haters are slowly getting to the point of exploding...

The day this opens will be a sight to see... Haters lining up with everyone else to go and see what was built and enjoy the land... LoL...

I know right so many were saying that it was pretty much done and then people now act like that never happened...What people don't seem to get on these threads is that they are not always right

 

[Captain Neo]

Since the insiders are saying the slate of attractions has been agreed on can we get confirmation that all we are getting is that area shown in the blueprints with just 2 rides? The reason I ask is because that really looks like an entry area where you journey to pandora via simulator and the boat ride track and the blueprints look as if there leading to other parts of the land? Any word if there will be a 3rd attraction? Martin alluded to one the "major e-ticket" for the land being cut what was that going to be? and finally, was the main e-ticket cut so that Disney could use the money to quickly build a radiator springs racer clone at MGM Studios?

 

[Lee]

The "C Ticket" (boat?) and the "E Ticket" (sim) are two seperate attractions that partially share a ride building. They are currently the only two attractions on the Pandora menu.
The sim won't "take" you to Pandora, you'll be there as soon as you enter the land.

A coaster was considered, but not approved for reasons that are unclear.

If Cars Land moves ahead as planned, it wl gave its own budget, and isn't dependant on anything that happens with Avatar.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I'm pretty spoiled after seeing Cars Land for myself last week. (Trip report on my blog or on Cars Land for DHS here.) I do not think Disney has created a single area this fantastic after a park first opened since New Orleans Square back in the 60s. I'll admit Avatar has a beautiful look. I just don't find the stories as compelling. A terrific cutting edge attraction would help.

 

[Captain Neo]

I wouldn't say they opted to make it less spectacular but it was more an issue of execution and Warner/J.K. trusting Creative Studios a bit too much. From what I've seen during the development so far they have learned their lesson. I'm not going to say that Creative isn't still full of incompetent knuckle-heads, along with some very competent and talented individuals, but Warner and J.K. are running the show and have been putting feet to fire to ensure a hgh quality execution.

On top of that understand that FJ was developed under the old Universal/GE regime. Comcast has commited a healthy budget - more than twice phase one's budget - to ensure that the inevitable blunders will be taken care of. They have to because J.K. has already threatened to pull the IP a few times already after some design reviews stating that what she was seeing was not exactly what was pitched initially. She has won every battle so far. They will not risk losing her blessing. One example concerns consumables such as LN2 and steam. UC wanted to cut that budget in half. Instead they were only able to cut about 10 percent. This expansion is about three times the size of the first. Regardless of individual opinions everything I've stated so far will be included. The quantity of props and show sets alone, something you shouldn't be able to complain about with respect to FJ or the existing land, should be enough to get you excited. If you like FJ queue and some of the land details you're sure to love what's coming. There are a few additions s slated for the existing land as well by the way.

That does sound better and the plans do certainly sound exciting. I did lke the FJ queue and the theming of the land was definetly top tier. However one thing I don't like is the reliance on video footage and projections Universal tends to make them too dark and grainy they should be bring and crisp and HD clear. Particularly the scene at the beginning of FJ where your flying with the kids on the broomsticks its very dark and doesnt look like im really flying with them it looks like im watching old movie footage.

 

[flynnibus]

I think some people have passive aggressive down to an art form here, that's what I think. Oh, were we talking about something else?

Don't flatter yourself - I was simply citing examples of what people were talking about to prove this wasn't some imaginary thing.

 

[PyroKinesis]

I'll tell you what, they add a Vekoma bike-coaster anywhere within Disney World, and I book my trip the day it's announced. Always wanted to ride one.

 

[flynnibus]

The "C Ticket" (boat?) and the "E Ticket" (sim) are two seperate attractions that partially share a ride building. They are currently the only two attractions on the Pandora menu.
The sim won't "take" you to Pandora, you'll be there as soon as you enter the land.

A coaster was considered, but not approved for reasons that are unclear.

If Cars Land moves ahead as planned, it wl gave its own budget, and isn't dependant on anything that happens with Avatar.

sweet and direct to the point. love it

 

[menamechris]

The "C Ticket" (boat?) and the "E Ticket" (sim) are two seperate attractions that partially share a ride building. They are currently the only two attractions on the Pandora menu.
The sim won't "take" you to Pandora, you'll be there as soon as you enter the land.

A coaster was considered, but not approved for reasons that are unclear.

If Cars Land moves ahead as planned, it wl gave its own budget, and isn't dependant on anything that happens with Avatar.

Sounds a lot like The Land...actually....like a direct copy of it. Guess they didn't have to go too far for inspiration...

 

[LOSTllama]

Sounds a lot like The Land...actually....like a direct copy of it. Guess they didn't have to go too far for inspiration...

To be honest, the other day while sitting in the Wonders of Life Pavillion, I thought WDI should use it or The Land as their framework for Pandora. A big, enclosed land with rides branching off... That way the whole place could be light controlled to be dark and could be themed to the forests of Pandora... So yeah, if it sounds like The Land I think they picked a good basis...

 

[menamechris]

To be honest, the other day while sitting in the Wonders of Life Pavillion, I thought WDI should use it or The Land as their framework for Pandora. A big, enclosed land with rides branching off... That way the whole place could be light controlled to be dark and could be themed to the forests of Pandora... So yeah, if it sounds like The Land I think they picked a good basis...

Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. BUT - given that the two rides will be the same basic concepts as at The Land ("E" ticket - Soarin'; "C/D" ticket - Living With the Land) - I am a little concerned about it seeming a little TOO familiar...

 

[The Empress Lilly]

LwtL is the E-ticket and Soarin' over Dust Valley is the D!

 

[Captain Neo]

The "C Ticket" (boat?) and the "E Ticket" (sim) are two seperate attractions that partially share a ride building. They are currently the only two attractions on the Pandora menu.
The sim won't "take" you to Pandora, you'll be there as soon as you enter the land.

A coaster was considered, but not approved for reasons that are unclear.

If Cars Land moves ahead as planned, it wl gave its own budget, and isn't dependant on anything that happens with Avatar.

If Universal comes out swinging with a highly ambitious Harry Potter Phase II, Transformers, and maybe something else alittle down the road do you think Disney will reconsider the coaster? Or are they more likely to come up with a different attraction OR simply do nothing and hope for the best?

 

[doctornick]

If Universal comes out swinging with a highly ambitious Harry Potter Phase II, Transformers, and maybe something else alittle down the road do you think Disney will reconsider the coaster? Or are they more likely to come up with a different attraction OR simply do nothing and hope for the best?

If Disney feels forced to do something beyond the current (rumored) slate for Pandora and Pixar Place, I don't think adding more to Pandora would be their decision. There's plenty of other places where they can do something eye catching if they were so inclined; off hand, I think they'd probably do a clone of the Tron bike coaster in Tomorrowland or put an Indiana Jones ride in DHS (or Adventureland?) before they would add a third attraction to the Pandora lineup.

 

[menamechris]

If Disney feels forced to do something beyond the current (rumored) slate for Pandora and Pixar Place, I don't think adding more to Pandora would be their decision. There's plenty of other places where they can do something eye catching if they were so inclined; off hand, I think they'd probably do a clone of the Tron bike coaster in Tomorrowland or put an Indiana Jones ride in DHS (or Adventureland?) before they would add a third attraction to the Pandora lineup.

I agree. I think they need to be a little more aggressive. They should have plans for something major in every park leading up to the 50th...

 

[GeorgiaPinesRJB]

I agree. I think they need to be a little more aggressive. They should have plans for something major in every park leading up to the 50th...

I agree, they should. We shall see what they do with expansion/additions outside of what we already know and or rumoured. I know this question was brought up earlier, but I think it may be possible: There are already two Rainforest Cafes on property (DAK and Downtown Disney). I could see them transforming Rainforest Cafe at DAK into Pandoran themed... with the bioluminesence...