Rumor Bye Bye (Tiki) Birdies?

HonorableMention

Well-Known Member
I don't love the Tiki Room, but I agree that it's an important piece of history and deserves to stay in some way. Like others have said, it doesn't make sense to gut this place when not much of anything could fit there. If it was COP, maybe, but this just seems odd.

As for the possibility of Stitch, it could be fine if done right. The TDL show only has Stitch actually appear at the end, and it would probably be more well received in MK if they put the focus more on the original music of the show. I feel like they would have to do a good amount of work on the AA to make it like Tokyo's.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Tiki room was nearly empty every single time I've been to the MK. This includes the first weeks of October, December, and March.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Yet every time I go into the Tiki Room, which is almost weekly, its almost always 90% FULL. So let's stop this stupid fake narrative that the Tiki Room draws no one.

I think the proper metric is how popular the attraction is compared to others.

When there is a peak day, like a weekend, well then, every attraction is full regardless of quality or enjoyment because the option is a two hour wait for Peter Pan, so, not wanting to do that, you settle for an attraction with less wait even if it isn't your top choice... even if it's one of your bottom choices.

But when the crowds thin a bit... which attractions are still attracting and which ones aren't? When there are less crowds, the times I (quite purposely) go to, then there is the same set of attractions that are almost always walk-ons: Tiki, CBJ, CoP, PeopleMover, Train. This is all while other attractions still have a queue of 15 to 80 minutes.

If those walk-ons were more attractive, they'd be peeling off people from those crowded attractions spreading out the crowd.

But they're not.

So, yes, saying "Tiki is always empty" is untrue. But, it is true to say "when crowds thin, Tiki is a way less visited attraction."

Mind you, I wouldn't want to see it go. It's charming despite the over-the-top ethnic stereotypes and male chauvinism. But where else can I sit down to eat my Whip?
 

Winter

Well-Known Member
Tiki room was nearly empty every single time I've been to the MK. This includes the first weeks of October, December, and March.
Yea I was at Disney last March, and when I went to it, there was almost no one else in there. I think this was just because of the time, but it was still funny when the one bird said "Wow, look at all these people!" and there was almost no one in there.
 

Rodan75

Well-Known Member
I love Tiki Room for all of it's kitschy goodness. But I can objectively recognize that the sounds of the Animated figures are louder than the music and the show doesn't make a lot of narrative sense in its current form.

I think it should stay, but I would be equally happy for the birds to become a pre-show to a more advanced attraction (ride or show). Or for the birds to become a dinner show at MK, Poly, or DS. The birds should live in some form or another.

As I mentioned earlier I can't imagine them taking out Tiki without reimagining that whole section of adventureland.

Overall, it is weird for them to take on Tiki when the Treeshouse seems like the easy first cut.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
So, it was not a full queue. Basically a walk-on, right? Is that a sign of a healthy attraction when other attractions have lengthy queues?
Tiki room has the capability of taking a full show load whilst the queue still assembles for the next show.

It's rare the queue spills out of the turnstiles yet even so the next show can be near capacity.

So a casual observation is not a sign of anything. Like I said the attraction has been seeing increased attendance since 2011 and currently has healthy loads. Despite what you're insinuating by saying "not a full queue". When did the HoP last have a few queue or a full auditorium? For example.

In short, no, not a walk on.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I think the proper metric is how popular the attraction is compared to others.

When there is a peak day, like a weekend, well then, every attraction is full regardless of quality or enjoyment because the option is a two hour wait for Peter Pan, so, not wanting to do that, you settle for an attraction with less wait even if it isn't your top choice... even if it's one of your bottom choices.

But when the crowds thin a bit... which attractions are still attracting and which ones aren't? When there are less crowds, the times I (quite purposely) go to, then there is the same set of attractions that are almost always walk-ons: Tiki, CBJ, CoP, PeopleMover, Train. This is all while other attractions still have a queue of 15 to 80 minutes.

If those walk-ons were more attractive, they'd be peeling off people from those crowded attractions spreading out the crowd.

But they're not.

So, yes, saying "Tiki is always empty" is untrue. But, it is true to say "when crowds thin, Tiki is a way less visited attraction."

Mind you, I wouldn't want to see it go. It's charming despite the over-the-top ethnic stereotypes and male chauvinism. But where else can I sit down to eat my Whip?

Which leads to the question, at what point does it not make sense to continue running an attraction, and should an un-popular attraction still remain because it has historic value?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Which leads to the question, at what point does it not make sense to continue running an attraction, and should an un-popular attraction still remain because it has historic value?

Are they running a museum?

And even if the answer is yes, which fine, Disney as a corporation with a public image can create for itself its own tributes... well, if people didn't attend the attraction anymore because it was old, worn, outdated, whatever... then why would they visit it as a museum piece?
 

Otterhead

Well-Known Member
Why hasn't that happened!? They should promote this.
The Disneyland Tiki Room is set up quite differently. There's a Dole Whip booth with serving stations outside as well as inside the pre-show area. Once inside the pre-show, you can sit around and enjoy your beverage/whip while watching Tiki Gods introduce themselves, and then go inside with your treats and watch the show (complete with the magic fountain). Dole Whip is basically integrated as part of the show experience.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
That's the thing though, most of "us people" are in agreement with the subject at hand. I'd hate to see certain attractions go away. Most of us loved Epcot in it's former state. We just don't rant about it every second of the day. It's gone, it's not coming back. Reminiscing is great, all out rage and anger over things in the past is something different. And then the proclamations of "I don't go anymore. But I know it's still horrible." "Disneyland is better" come out. This is a Disney site, and these threads are Disney World threads, maybe some of us just want to say "hey there is new stuff, the parks are still enjoyable" because they are, if you live in the present and not the past. It makes me sad to see people spend so much time talking about a place that they don't visit. So some of "us" try to point out facts..maybe foolishly thinking that current facts might bring someone to present day. That's not being a Pixie Duster, it's being a realist.

I rarely any see any of the so called "Pixie Dust Crowd" actually throw out insults or attacks. I don't see them posting a succession of not so passive aggressive, sarcastic, and childish posts either. All I see is facts being pointed out.

You realize that when "certain attractions go away" it's due to a conscious choice, one that is the result of a set of philosophies and ideas about business and the parks? It's not a force of nature - the execs don't wake up one morning and go "oh dear, Mother Earth in her wisdom has reclaimed the Tiki Room."

And my love of WDW is deep - it effected the course of my life. The decision to think critically about it rather than just trot along merrily with it as it changes beyond recognition was not a fun one. I - and a lot of the other posters who are critical about the current state of the park - can go toe-to-toe with you on WDW knowledge and trivia. You don't earn argument points because of the amount of cash you pour into Disney's coffers.

And yeah, Disneyland is better. It wasn't when Pressler was in charge, and now it is. It's amazing the effect a change in executive - and fan pressure - can have on a park.
 

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