Breaking News: Anna Nicole Smith Is Dead, Her Lawyer Says

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TurboCaroline

Is it 5:00 yet?
It's funny how much coverage the media gave to this though. There have been a lot a celebrity deaths that did not get near the coverage that Anna Nicole has received. I don't remember James Brown getting this much or Angelina Jolie's mother. My homepage is MSN.com and in the entertainment section they always list the late breaking news. They do "mention" the deaths of not so popular celebrities but that is all it is.

It must be how popular a celebrity is that determines how much coverage it will receive..

I guess it was such a shock that she died so young...:shrug:
 

mkt

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Why... and what are you doing that makes you any better than anybody else to decide who is the waste of bones and organs?

I don't approve of the way she lived, but there are a lot of people I feel that way about.
I never pretended to be any better, and in the eyes of some, I may have led a worse life than her. However, I've lived more life than some people twice my age, and I know a waste when I see one. She was a waste, and I'm glas to see that she is no longer a waste.
 

jesserin

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"She came from humble origins and achieved celebrity and wealth, one way or another," Walter said. "And that is an American story."

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Noooow i see. :lookaroun If that's what it means to have an American story... then I think I'll claim allegiance to Canada, thanks. :cool:

But at least I get "Why we cared" :rolleyes:
 

mkt

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This is true....her daughter may be raised better then she would have been if Anna Nicole would not have died...but that is our opinion.....once again.

Some may say that Maggie could be raised better by someone else or that I could have been raised better by someone other then my parents because of what they do or did....that still does not make it okay to me to have someone act like my life or their life was nothing to be celebrated or mourned.

I have also lost people in my life...along with several unborn children and grandparents and on and on..we all have and yes we will all die....that does not give me any reason to make light of a situation where someone is doing without a person they cared about..regardless of her actions or how she lived.


Rob..you know I like you and I also like Connor...and I do respect your opinion and your thoughts and thats why I would hope that you both respect how I feel on this.

We all have opinions and some we may agree on and some we may not.

My whole point from the beginning is that no matter who she is...what she did...how she lived....she was a human being.
A child is best raised by a competent, loving, responsible parent. Her reality show showed me none of that... any time she was in public, she showed none of those 3 traits.

Dana, you have shown me those 3 traits, and I know you and I are kindred in cetain regards. I know you are a good parent, so to those that tell you different because you are different, tell them to ________ off. It doesn't matter how much you differ from another parent, as long as those 3 criteria are met.

We're all human beings... I said this in the PML, so I'll say it here as well. It doesn't matter to me if you're a human being. You don't deserve dignity in death if you didn't earn in in life.

She may have been a human being, but so are all of us. And I don't care who you are... no one can tell me that all humans deserve dignity in death. Anna doesn't deserve impropriety in death... she doesn't deserve to have her body thrown in the trash... that's not right. But she doesn't deserve any of the attention the media has been giving her, and she doesn't deserve a tear from me.
 

mkt

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Rob, I'm sorry you've had to deal with so much in a very limited amount of time.

Everyone deals with death differently. Some are "veterans" and have come to accept the realities of existence, others hold on to the illusion of permanence (even if they tell themselves otherwise). Everyone has to figure it out on their own I guess. Fear of death is normal...and when we (on an individual level) face it, we are reminded of our own mortality...
I'm a believer in permanence in the afterlife. Whether it be heaven, hell, limbo, purgatorium, samsara, sheol, valhalla, particular judgement, roaming the earth, etc. I'm not really scared of death, in fact, I view death as something that is typically dignified. However, I also typically find something good about the deceased. Anna Nicole Smith is different- I can't find anything good about her. Not a thing. She made 2 kids, and 1 of them ended up like her. All of the death I've encountered has served to make me aware of my own mortality, and I try not to waste any days, I try to always be "on," always doing something, no matter how small it is.
 

Connor002

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Connor.....
You are allowed to say whatever you want and I was talking about other peoples comments also..not just yours.

It is just that to me..someone died so no matter what..I feel that we should at least respect that person and their families a little bit at least...celebrity or not.
Did this person earn respect?
I think not.
Perhaps that is just me, though.

I think we do see your point...Do you see ours?:shrug:
I do.
I disagree.
Again, that is the fault of the media who apparently is under the impression that we all love to eat this news up. As long as it continues to get ratings, they will continue to feed it to us. I won't touch on the soldier issue for fear of it getting to a place it shouldn't get to, but I'll say this: this society has become way too jaded and cares more for celebrity deaths because of the scandals they bring with them.

:shrug:
But are you not, by discussing and attempting to force others to feel "compassion" for this person, proving why the media covers this?
I'm gonna go with no.
Ah, how righteous we are.
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Oh, so funny... I'm reeling.
 

Connor002

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Jess said:
"She came from humble origins and achieved celebrity and wealth, one way or another," Walter said. "And that is an American story."

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Noooow i see. :lookaroun If that's what it means to have an American story... then I think I'll claim allegiance to Canada, thanks. :cool:

But at least I get "Why we cared" :rolleyes:

mkt said:
I'm with Jess on this one. If that's why "we" cared, why she's an American success story, I'm going to Canada... I'm going to the EU... she was a shame to all Americans.


I'm with Jess and Rob.
 

CaptainMichael

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"She came from humble origins and achieved celebrity and wealth, one way or another," Walter said. "And that is an American story."

:brick:



Noooow i see. :lookaroun If that's what it means to have an American story... then I think I'll claim allegiance to Canada, thanks. :cool:

But at least I get "Why we cared" :rolleyes:

I'm with Jess on this one. If that's why "we" cared, why she's an American success story, I'm going to Canada... I'm going to the EU... she was a shame to all Americans.

I'm with Jess and Rob.

:shrug: I just posted a link to the story.:shrug:

I don't know Anna Nicole, I don't know much of what she did, but she had a life and obviously people cared about her (both personally and entertainment wise). It's sad when someone dies...

:shrug:
 

maggiegrace1

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Did this person earn respect?
I think not.
Perhaps that is just me, though.
I am sure from someone she did...no one said you had to respect her..I said I felt that we should.....again..MY opinion.

I believe compassion should be alloted to those who deserve it.
Being human isn't enough.
For a very extreme example:
Benito Mussolini, Mao Zedong, Genghis Khan, Vlad III Tepes, Ivan the Terrible, Heinrich Himmler, Elizabeth Bathory, Timothy McVeigh, Al Capone, "The Bloods," "The Crips," and even Adolf Hitler were all "humans."
Yes it should be...
but who are you or I to decide who deserves respect or not:shrug:
On the contrary, I believe it was you who "began" the argument.
Apparently I am required to have compassion for that woman.
I did not begin any arguement..I said how I felt and my opinion..just like you said how you felt and YOUR opinion....no one is saying that either of us is right.
I do.
I disagree.
I disagree with yours...so..
But are you not, by discussing and attempting to force others to feel "compassion" for this person, proving why the media covers this?
No one is forcing anyone to feel Compassion for anyone....we are saying how we feel and you are saying how you feel....

That does not prove why the media covers this at all...they cover it because she is a celebrity.
Ah, how righteous we are.
Why?...because she stated her thoughts on the question?...You are doing the same thing..we all are...

We can go back and forth till we are blue in the face with how I feel and how you feel..

The thing is we all have different opinions on everything and thats life....

I respect your opinion on these things and I would hope that you respect mine.
 

Wilt Dasney

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One good thing about being an average shmuck who doesn't accomplish anything in life...nobody publicly argues over whether your death matters or not.

If I were a relative of the deceased Ms. Smith, I'd probably avoid any TVs or print media for a while.
 

Uponastar

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One good thing about being an average shmuck who doesn't accomplish anything in life...nobody publicly argues over whether your death matters or not.

If I were a relative of the deceased Ms. Smith, I'd probably avoid any TVs or print media for a while.

Every life, as well as every death matters. Maybe she got to the point where her own life ceased to matter to her. But there are people who loved her and people who will mourn her and to those people, she mattered.
 

maggiegrace1

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Every life, as well as every death matters. Maybe she got to the point where her own life ceased to matter to her. But there are people who loved her and people who will mourn her and to those people, she mattered.
Thanks Dot.....

Thats all I have been trying to say....
You made it so much easier.....LOL..:)
 

Wilt Dasney

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Every life, as well as every death matters. Maybe she got to the point where her own life ceased to matter to her. But there are people who loved her and people who will mourn her and to those people, she mattered.

Thanks. That's the point I was trying to make. To someone, this is more than a TV story and hearing all the discussion over whether she mattered must be quite painful to those individuals.

I know I wouldn't want to have to consider that question if someone I loved were gone.
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
So... this is what all the hubub is about?

Anna Nicole was a dirty skeez.

And whats with all this: "Lets put her on a pedestal, now that she is dead, and say she is our generations Marilyn Monroe"

Bleeech... :hurl: I think not! She was white trailer trash with money that was ill gotten.... -- at best. Not our nations hero... as she is being portrayed on every media outlet, two bit rag, and by bloggers that live in mommys basement.

JMO... its as usefull as my belly button lint...lol :lol: :shrug: :shrug:

Is it sad that she died? Yesssss... Did she choke on her vomit while she was in some sort of sleep induced drug binge? Most likely. Is she some sort of 'Saint' now... as everyone and their brother are trying to portray her as? Heck no! :hammer:
 

Uponastar

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Thanks Dot.....

Thats all I have been trying to say....
You made it so much easier.....LOL..:)

Thanks. That's the point I was trying to make. To someone, this is more than a TV story and hearing all the discussion over whether she mattered must be quite painful to those individuals.

I know I wouldn't want to have to consider that question if someone I loved were gone.

You are welcome.
I do have a problem with the level of celebrity status some people achieve with amazingly small qualifications. And surely Ms. Smith would have to be held more than a little responsible for most of her life circumstances. But none of that takes away from the fact that a 39 year old woman is dead and her baby is left without a mother. Add to that the "joke" that her celebrity has become and you have a truly tragic state of affairs. Her family is now suffering through that and it should not be our business to add to their grief.
 
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