You actually took that seriously?mmssbrg2 said:I'm shocked at some of the responses that this story is generating. Keep in mind that a family on vaction just experienced a tragedy. A mother and father just lost a son and a child just lost his older brother. All a lot of you can seem to do is throw insults and accusations around. What if this family was a visitor on this board and logged on to see statements of compassion and they saw accusations that they were at fault because they are idiots. That's deplorable.
Even the thougt that a competitor park had something to do with this is absolutely insane, insensitive, irresponsible, and uncalled for. Keep your unfounded conspiricy theories to yourself.
As for the news media. They are in the business to make money. Getting a scoop on competitors is part of the business. The Sentinal's initial report stated that details were scarce and they reported what they knew at the time. This is a newsworthy story and should be taken as exactly what it is, a tragedy. It's not some conspiricy by the news media or a competitor to hurt the company's reputation or profits.
Grow up and show some compassion.
My deepest condolences go out to the family and friends of this child.
pinkrose said:My local news just reported that they closed the whole park today.I e-mailed them to tell them that it was the ride that was closed. Not the park.
I'd hope not. I go to cedar point for my extreme rides, but I miss the theming. I love Disney thrill rides and I hope they build something that actually makes me nervous sometimemaxime29 said:First off, definite condolances to the family for the loss of their young one.
I'm curious as to whether Disney will be selective when creating a "thrill ride" in the future. While the deaths so far (not including this recent one) have not been Disney's fault, most people would think the nature of the rides is too intense and life threatening. (Heaven forbid people actually find out if it was Disney Maintenance fault or just time for the person's life to end, premature or not. I would not be surprised if we do not see another "intense" thrill ride built on property.
pinkrose said:My local news just reported that they closed the whole park today.I e-mailed them to tell them that it was the ride that was closed. Not the park.
Yes, I know. That's why I e-mailed the station.Braves323 said:The park was not closed. Just the ride.
wdwishes2005 said:I'd hope not. I go to cedar point for my extreme rides, but I miss the theming. I love Disney thrill rides and I hope they build something that actually makes me nervous sometime
CommandoDisney said:oh, and to criticize foreignors for being stupid... thats just ignorant. many people on these boards are foreignors. you may not realize this but even Canada is considered foreign. that kind of statement should be apologized for.
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mmssbrg2 said:I'm shocked at some of the responses that this story is generating. Keep in mind that a family on vaction just experienced a tragedy. A mother and father just lost a son and a child just lost his older brother. All a lot of you can seem to do is throw insults and accusations around. What if this family was a visitor on this board and logged on to see statements of compassion and they saw accusations that they were at fault because they are idiots. That's deplorable.
Even the thougt that a competitor park had something to do with this is absolutely insane, insensitive, irresponsible, and uncalled for. Keep your unfounded conspiricy theories to yourself.
As for the news media. They are in the business to make money. Getting a scoop on competitors is part of the business. The Sentinal's initial report stated that details were scarce and they reported what they knew at the time. This is a newsworthy story and should be taken as exactly what it is, a tragedy. It's not some conspiricy by the news media or a competitor to hurt the company's reputation or profits.
Grow up and show some compassion.
My deepest condolences go out to the family and friends of this child.
Dr Albert Falls said:Unbelievable. So many who are criticizing the media about this incident seem to have THEIR facts wrong...
.....Blizz said:"Though Disney has portable heart defibrillator units stationed throughout its parks, there was not one available to use on Michael until the paramedics arrived, according to an audiotape of the 911 call."
Slants it so that Disney sounds at fault for not providing equipment that would not have helped the boy in the event that it was anything outside of a heart condition.
THE MEDIA DIDN'T DREAM UP A "CONTROVERSY" ABOUT THE DEFIBRILLATOR. WHOEVER CALLED 911 FOUND IT IMPORTANT ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE TO MENTION WHILE A CHILD'S LIFE WAS AT STAKE. THE NEWSPAPER MERELY QUOTED THE 911 CALLER. I BET IF THE 911 CALLER DIDN'T MENTION THE DEFIBRILLATOR, THE NEWSPAPER WOULD NOT HAVE EITHER. THEY REPORTED THE FACTS.
"At its peak it produces a pressure on the body that is 5 times that of gravity, a rate considered high but not unusual for roller coasters. Ride safety consultant Ken Martin of Virginia said 5 Gs is sufficient to cause some people to lose consciousness."
G forces are exerted on the human body everyday. The level on the coaster is enough to maybe make someone black out. A normal and healthy rider who follows guidelines should not be effected at all.
IN THESE TWO SENTENCES, THE NEWSPAPER SHARES BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE OVER G-FORCES. THEY SAY THAT 5 G IS "NO UNUSUAL" BUT ALSO THAT A SAFETY EXPERT HAS CONCERNS. HOW IS THAT SLANT? THE NEWSPAPER RAISES A QUESTION THE AVERAGE READER WOULD HAVE ("HOW WILD IS THIS RIDE") AND ANSWERS IT IN A SCIENTIFIC WAY, QUOTING AN EXPERT, NOT THEIR OWN OPINION.
"This breaks my heart. It really worries me now about roller coasters," said Rene Boylan, 41, of Easton, Pa., whose 7-year old son had ridden the roller coaster and wanted to ride again. "I might start rethinking some of these rides for him. The roller coasters seem to be going to extremes now. I might be more cautious as to what I let him go on."
While I will say this is an interview, I would have held back, because the cause is unknown, one can not assume that the coaster was at fault. This goes against the ethics I have had instilled in me as a reporter.
JUST AS ONE SHOULD NOT ASSUME THE COASTER IS AT FAULT, A TRUE JOURNALIST WILL NOT ASSUME THE RIDE IS 100% SAFE, EITHER. REGARDLESS, THAT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO THIS QUOTE. THIS WOMAN LEARNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, HAS A GENUINE CONCERN, AND PLANS TO ACT RESPONSIBLY WITH HER YOUNG CHILD. ISN'T IT NEWSWORTHY THAT THIS DEATH IS CAUSING PARENTS TO ACT DIFFERENTLY?
The article also goes on to discuss previous accidents at Disney to make it sound like Disney has had many accidents. This is unrelated and old news. Old news is bad news. I find it distasteful to even include it.
IT IS RELATED. ALL THE INCIDENTS HAPPENED AT THE SAME PLACE. IT ALL HAPPENED AROUND THE SAME TIME PERIOD. DISNEY *HAS* HAD MANY INCIDENTS. MAYBE NOT THEIR FAULT. BUT THEY'VE CERTAINLY HAD MORE DEATHS RECENTLY THAN IN THEIR 50-YEAR HISTORY, AND CERTAINLY MORE THAN OTHER THEME PARKS. AND HOW IS THAT A MATTER OF "TASTE"?
I'M DYING TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR JOURNALISM BACKGROUND.
I could go on but thats all for now...
...Blizz said:Are you serious? Read up like 2 posts.
People outside of the as I call it "good media" don't get it. Readers seldom get it, because they are brainwashed by slander.
SLANDER IS TO IMPROPERLY DISCREDIT A PERSON'S CHARACTER. YOUR SENTENCE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, JOE FRIDAY.
Little, often subtle things, can skew the view of an entire event. Which is why I pointed out the few parts that I did. News is not news if it is done to report a story and create panic (of any size).
I HIGHLY DOUBT THE SENTINEL SAID "A BOY DEATH ON A DISNEY COASTER IS NOT INTERESTING ENOUGH ON ITS OWN. LETS CREATE SOME PANIC!"
I see all too often these poor ethics, mainly in smaller papers. CNN was right on with their story. They didnt overstep their bounds. (They also didnt send reporters sneaking into the theme park like the Orlando Sent. does when Disney asks them to respect their wishes and wait for a press release.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, A GOOD JOURNALIST SHOULD WAIT TO BE SPOON-FED A DAMAGE-CONTROL PRESS RELEASE, RATHER THAN ACTUALLY DO SOME SHOE-ON-THE-PAVEMENT REPORTING? AND WHY SHOULD THE A JOURNALIST "RESPECT DISNEY'S WISHES"? WHO'S IS A JOURNALIST SUPPOSED TO BE LOYAL TO, THEIR READERS OR A POWERFUL CORPORATION? THE PUBLIC CAN BUY A TICKET AND GO INSIDE, RIGHT? WHY CAN'T A NEWSPAPER?
All I am saying is act more like Joe Friday... Just the facts!
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