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Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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DCLcruiser said:
I mean, anything is possible, but it would probably take 2 hours for a family to exit the park, go to their own car (not Disney buses/Monorail), drive their own car outside of WDW, eat at McDonald's, pack back up, come back in, go through security/ticketing, and be back for whatever they wanted to do. That's not likely for the average guest. Or they go back to their hotel and each lunch/use the pool, but that is taking away a lot of hours of park time.

DLR is a lot easier, since you can walk to off-site hotels.

There are def less expensive options in the parks, but when you think about the ticket, hotel, food, souvenirs, etc., it's a ton (and I'm just going with 2 people total).
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That’s why I said folks would have to compromise.

Maybe it’s because my friend and I are used to Disneyland, where it’s normal and common to leave and return, but we had no problem leaving MK for food (not that we had a choice, we couldn’t find any open restaurants for dinner). Additionally, I don’t think losing park time is necessarily a bad thing. As a first-timer, sure. But if one has visited the parks multiple times, what’s the big deal if they don’t get to do things that they’ve already done a bunch of times before? This is partially why I can’t get with Genie+. Why would I pay to skip the general line for a ride I’ve already ridden hundreds of times, and when that option used to be free? If I don’t get to do something on one visit, no big deal. There’s hopefully next time.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Californian Elitist said:
As a first-timer, sure. But if one has visited the parks multiple times, what’s the big deal if they don’t get to do things that they’ve already done a bunch of times before? This is partially why I can’t get with Genie+. Why would I pay to skip the general line for a ride I’ve already ridden hundreds of times, and when that option used to be free? If I don’t get to do something on one visit, no big deal. There’s hopefully next time.
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My guess is the average Disney guest falls into the former category -- not necessarily as a first-timer, but as people who don't visit often. And for anyone with kids, even if it's not a first time, the experience is going to differ wildly even with just a couple of years difference. A 5 year old experiencing an attraction is going to see it very differently than an 8 year old.

I imagine this board skews heavily towards AP/DVC people who visit multiple times a year, or at least once every couple of years (although I personally don't fall into this category as I've been to WDW twice in the past decade), and that absolutely makes sense for them, but probably not for the average guest.
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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Raidermatt said:
Saying Wells was Eisner's Roy does not accurately capture the relationship. For most practical purposes, Wells and Eisner were equals. Neither had sway over the other, except that all knew the preference of the investors was to have Wells in charge. Things were done that Eisner, left to his own devices, would have nixed. Execs stayed around because they could work purely through Wells.

Eisner was no creative genius. He may have wanted to be Walt, but he lacked the talent and he felt threatened by those with talent. This is why relationships with so many creatives and with other companies imploded when Eisner ran the show. As bad a place as the animation studio was in when Eisner/Wells came aboard, it was in a worse place when he was forced out.

Wells's position was about much more than just telling Eisner no. It was about actively running major portions of the company, and providing a buffer between the many talented individuals who Eisner otherwise alienated. Eisner never wanted this arrangement. He accepted it because it was his chance to be a CEO and there was no way Roy E and the investors were going to turn the entire company over to him. The death of Wells gave him the opportunity to take full and complete control. He did not want another Wells, nor did he even want another Roy O.
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Walt and Roy were effectively equals as well. Yes, Walt was the public face of the company and today his name is known far more than Roy's. And Roy did try very hard to make the creative visions that Walt had work. But Roy was a powerful force as well and could stand up to his brother and tell him something wasn't going to work. Roy does not get nearly enough credit for the success of the company as he deserves. Kinda like how today folks still remember Michael Eisner but rarely hear Frank Wells' name associated with Disney.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Skywise said:
Barq's does!

Barq's Rootbeer has bite! :p
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…hmmm. That means our friends at Coca-Cola are messing with it, no?

Wait…it contains 1.8 mg per ounce…

That’s practically nothing.

The winner in the clubhouse with 5.4 mg/ounce?

You guessed it:
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MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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UNCgolf said:
I'm not sure there's a ton of overlap between the people who want to see a film from the current DC universe and people going to see a Pixar movie.
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Sometimes the mere existence of a gigantic movie can drown out all others and cause audiences not to realize they exist. Even if they might normally prefer those other films instead.

This happened with Disney's 2011 Winnie the Pooh. It's actually a very good and super charming movie with lovely animation (last hand drawn Disney movie ever). It even received strong praise, but it was a financial bomb. Disney literally set it up to fail. Not only did they advertise it rather poorly, they released it the same exact day as the final Potter film. Pooh had literally no chance, a ton of people didn't even know it existed due to Potter drowning everything else out.
 
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Elijah Abrams

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I feel like they’re going to cancel Elemental’s theatrical release and move it to streaming just because of that movie starring Ezra "bad behavior" Miller!
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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The point is it used to be unthinkable for a studio to open a big tent pole the same weekend as a new Pixar film. But, Pixar is not what it used to be, it’s cultural cache has diminished greatly, and the other studios clearly aren’t as intimidated. It’s a new IP vs Batman Multiverses feat The Flash. It’s true the respective audiences may not overlap that much but the studios typically want to be able to have at least one weekend (or two) with little competition. We’ll see who comes out on top in June
 

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