Goofnut1980
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For someone who was all about the bottom line only... Wasn't Paycheck responsible for Harmonious and it going way over budget?
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Robbiem
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Add the Walt back. Under Iger v1 so much went from Walt Disney to just Disney. Changing the man to a logo was a big mistake IMO
It really wasn’t. The source material was so old that it lacked grounding in modern science. They were following the source material so closely it just felt anachronistic.
Good start. I’ll go: the iconic Purple signs.
Willow’s name is on Bob 1.0’s sign (kind of clever, as wel). Can’t disrespect her like that.
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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SpoiledBlueMilk
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I'm no bleeding heart liberal, but I would say - show some leadership, do something that will rock the corporate world, and increase the minimum wage for hourly Disney CMs to $15. Increase prices in food and drink to offset the cost. Enough saying that the cast members are what make the Disney experience great and start paying them what they're worth. CMs are the face of the brand and the ambassadors that either make or break a customer's experience. Do this and the morale will improve.
SpoiledBlueMilk
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What makes Andor stand out is the fact that it was greenlit and produced by the same Lucasfilm that made Kenobi and Boba Fett. It's like a B movie studio unexpectedly producing The Piano.
So. Another price increase?
MerlinTheGoat
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The announcement that Illuminations would be replaced with a new show happened in September 2018 when Iger was still fully the CEO. So I don't know how much blame you can put on Chapek for that. Unless someone has information to the contrary.
SpoiledBlueMilk
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If other offsets can't be found.
correcaminos
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Yes, the creative designer said Chapek gave input on it. Lots more credit than he probably deserves. But it's well known that Chapek had his hand in that one.
So you’re going to win back the fan base with a price increase?
Okay. Might work.
But luckily Iger already commented that he was alarmed at the price increases during Chapek’s reign. So they’ll have to figure out a different path.
MerlinTheGoat
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That was regarding Chapek allegedly saying it needed to be a cartoon clip show, right? I don't want to sound like i'm showing disrespect or calling that designer a liar, but i'm having a very hard time buying that Iger (the king of cartoon IP integration) actually tried to prevent that, or was in any way against it.
Regardless, I doubt the IP situation is what caused it to go over budget. I was under the impression it was the hardware/software involved that caused that.
My assessment is that there's a LOT of blame being shifted to Chapek right now. A lot of which is likely because people who also made major mistakes are trying to protect their jobs and are looking for a scapegoat. I hate the guy as well, and he deserves to be slammed for not using his year running solo to reverse any of this and simply continuing down the Iger path. But most of the things people are angry about were already approved and enacted under Iger's watch.
SpoiledBlueMilk
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I was thinking more of CM morale. For guest morale, get rid of Genie+ and adopt Disneyland Paris' model.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I took a quick look at their current job postings and didn’t see anything under $15 already, quick service was $15, laundry was $15, line cook was $19, bus driver was $18, lifeguard was $15.25, custodian was $15… I didn’t look at them all so it’s possible some positions are below that but I don’t think it would benefit many CMs.
I’ll disagree with the CM assessment. Throwing them $5-$10 an hour more is nice.
But if I were a CM. I’d rather have them define an attainable career path. I think that would do more for CM morale.
Tell me how - if I work hard, am responsible, and put in the time - I get to $50-$75k
Casper Gutman
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I'm sorry, but fans are looking SO HARD for a reason to hate Kathleen Kennedy that it becomes absurd. You're even trying to denigrate Andor, universally critically acclaimed and clearly better written, acted, directed, and produced then anything Star Wars has produced since the OT, because it fails "from a general audience buzz standpoint" - however you're discerning that. You're also treating a franchise that was an absolute pop culture joke after the derided PT and is chock-a-block with risible garbage in the vast majority of the EU as though it has been consistently successful, praised, and beloved for most of its existence. It hasn't been. It is in a better state right now, today, then it has been since 1983.
Certain fans are so desperate to hate Kennedy, one of the most successful producers of the last 40 years whose resume is absolutely full of modern classics, and blame her for everything wrong with the ST, rather then blame Iger, the guy who has destroyed Disney parks and has PUBLICALLY ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY for the problems with the big-screen franchise. The hatred towards Kennedy has little to do with reality and what the franchise is actually producing and a lot to do with other factors.
correcaminos
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Nah he gets it for this one IMO. I don't love Iger but the blame IMO is squarely placed on Chapek and creative designers. And who gave thumbs up for keeping the barges in place. Chapek put his name on it. I'll let him. He isn't responsible for all the changes but Harmonious is his.