News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

[fgmnt]

But we know how Iger conceives of his legacy. He absolutely does not want to bring back WDI, he wants to have his legacy be making them largely obsolete. To a considerable extent his legacy is acquisitions, and at the moment it is likely Iger sees building his legacy as digesting and justifying the Fox acquisition and stabilizing stock prices - which probably means more belt tightening at WDW. The most likely physical manifestation of an Iger legacy push in the parks will be a starchitect structure like the tabletop to prove he can be creative like Eisner.

It's all become so clear to me now; they hired him to buy Universal Creative

 

[EPCOT-O.G.]

I know this move was done to inspire confidence in Wall Street, but it really suggests some deep, deep problems that are maybe far worse than even us Disney fanatics realize or comprehend

 

[MisterPenguin]

The troll is on ignore yet I still see his posts. I’m confused.

For $15 a month, I bought WDWMagic's Protection from /Ignore. You can't squelch me!!!

 

[MrPromey]

If Strange World flops it’s due to the lack of marketing.

Well... lack of marketing is usually the result in a lack of confidence from management.

Seems like for whatever reason, they have really low expectations for this one, especially since they've already announced it'll be available for winter break streaming.

People can and will read whatever they want into that.

It's possible for anyone to guess the time and potentially be right up to twice a day.

 

[_caleb]

The troll is on ignore yet I still see his posts. I’m confused.

You need to pay extra for the ignore button to actually do anything.

 

[Disney Analyst]

You need to pay extra for the ignore button to actually do anything.

Ignore+

 

[_caleb]

This thread should not be political, and neither will I, but that’s also a large part of Chapek’s downfall. He wasn’t able to navigate any high profile issue as well as Iger had. Disney was no longer politically neutral as it aspired to be for decades.

Iger was much more subtle about increasing costs while decreasing budgets. Chapek hit you over the head with a hammer. Iger made some of the best acquisitions of the past two decades in media. He knew how to negotiate with Hollywood and knew where content was heading.

I’m still weary about the future of Disney, especially the parks, but less pessimistic than I was prior to hearing this news. Now, can Iger find a real successor? He’s failed that for nearly a decade.

Thing is, he didn’t need to! He could have found his own PR mastermind and spokespeople with actual personalities and gotten out of the way.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

You need to pay extra for the ignore button to actually do anything.

So that's why this thread smelled so musky...

 

[Casper Gutman]

Everyone knows Igers political position but he‘s eloquent enough to make a statement without stepping into the middle of a political firestorm. It’s not so much what he thinks but how he says it.

Given the very specific circumstances surrounding the event in question, there was absolutely no way to finesse an answer to avoid a firestorm. There almost always is. In this case, there wasn't. Chapek stumbled badly but it was a no-win scenario. He was the fall guy, the sacrificial lamb.

 

[BaconPancakes]

Well... lack of marketing is usually the result in a lack of confidence from management.

Seems like for whatever reason, they have really low expectations for this one, especially since they've already announced it'll be available for winter break streaming.

People can and will read whatever they want into that.

It's possible for anyone to guess the time and potentially be right up to twice a day.

Encanto came out in November and was on Disney plus the next month. Your argument is invalid.

 

[_caleb]

Well... lack of marketing is usually the result in a lack of confidence from management.

Seems like for whatever reason, they have really low expectations for this one, especially since they've already announced it'll be available for winter break streaming.

People can and will read whatever they want into that.

It's possible for anyone to guess the time and potentially be right up to twice a day.

You mean Chapek had low expectations for the film. Iger’s all about it!

 

[SplashJacket]

As a general note, given today's events this is a particularly horrible time for the hate spewing on these boards. Not that there is a good time.

Do we really think he even knows what happened today when Fox News buries it below so much garbage?

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[BaconPancakes]

Please seek some professional counselling. You seem to believe that other people (including dead people) share your distorted view of the world. Ownership of DVC points does not protect you from a mental health crisis.

That person is a DVC member? Yikes. Seems more like a kid on thanksgiving break.

 

[MisterPenguin]

When Iger was questioned on stockholder calls accusing him and the company of being 'too woke,' his response was, to paraphrase, "We don't see these issues as a right or left issue, we see it as a human issue."

A far cry more diplomatic than the hot water Chapek got himself in.

And the Scarlett Johansson debacle would have never happened under Iger.

 

[JustInTime]

Well... lack of marketing is usually the result in a lack of confidence from management.

Seems like for whatever reason, they have really low expectations for this one, especially since they've already announced it'll be available for winter break streaming.

People can and will read whatever they want into that.

It's possible for anyone to guess the time and potentially be right up to twice a day.

Yeah. But the marketing definitely isn’t helping. The weren’t confident in Encanto either and they were wrong. The folks making these marketing decisions seem out of touch.

 

[BaconPancakes]

Or there's the non-political take which is that Lightyear was not a very good movie with an in-world reason to exist that seemed more like it came from a board room than from a writer.

Lightyear was awful. Worst Pixar movie by a landslide.

 

[MrPromey]

Encanto came out in November and was on Disney plus the next month. Your argument is invalid.

Encanto, arguably, was not a hit until people were seeing it for free*.

We can say a lot about why that was - people still not all back to theaters, people not impressed by the trailer enough to pay to see it, etc. but it's a pretty safe bet that had it not been for Disney+, nobody would be calling it a hit and that one got plenty of marketing.

You can say the quick release to Disney+ doesn't mean much but they put a lot more effort into promoting that one than they are with this one and I still think that's not because they just forgot to but we'll see.

I'm not aware of it [Encanto] moving much merch even after Disney+, beyond the soundtrack and frankly, that's the only thing people seem crazy about - well, one song, anyway, even still. (but I'm open to being proven wrong).


*as in no additional charge.

 

[UNCgolf]

For $15 a month, I bought WDWMagic's Protection from /Ignore. You can't squelch me!!!

You forgot to mention it's called Promote+.

 

[_caleb]

Encanto came out in November and was on Disney plus the next month. Your argument is invalid.

Don’t forget that was 2021 (pandemic) and also they really needed to buff Disney+

 

[vikescaper]

For $15 a month, I bought WDWMagic's Protection from /Ignore. You can't squelch me!!!

Is there variable pricing based on the date?