News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

SteamboatJoe

SteamboatJoe

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Closing the stores was a mistake but not in a way that is easily quantifiable on a spreadsheet. They were more than just merchandise movers to a lot of people. They were a taste of the parks, especially for those of us that live states away (particularly when they were in their a prime). They were a touch of magic reminding us of past parks trips and tempting us to return.

When they closed the one by me, it made me feel farther from the parks; a disconnect that has only worsened over time due to the fact that a Disney trip, while still financially feasible for my family, is getting less and less financially responsible. We live within reasonable distance of two Cedar Fair parks,one of which we now have season passes to. While not Disney, they are doing just enough to make us think perhaps we don't need Disney parks in our lives as much as we thought we did a couple years ago. When we need our fix, we can just turn on Disney+, watch a YouTube channel, and/or play some music while we look at old photographs. We will return at some point to take our daughter but maybe not as frequently as originally planned.
 
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TQQQ

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CaptainAmerica said:
You know you can just wait in line right?
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Anyone that would wait 2 hours for Toy Story Midway Mania needs their head examined!


Current wait times in HS:

ToT: Temp closed, Genie+ gone
Toy Story Mania: 120 mins
ROTR: 145 mins
Slinky DD: 160 mins
RnR: 120 mins
MFSR: 110 mins
MMRR: 100 mins
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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TQQQ said:
and get on how many rides? you must have missed the wiat times post...........every ride was over and hour and 20 minute wait with several being over 2 hours.....
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You understand that if this were Thanksgiving 2012, the lines would be just as long, FastPass ticket distribution would have closed at most attractions three hours ago, and you wouldn't have any skip-the-line options, right? Not for $270 or any other amount. You'd have no choice.

There are a lot of good arguments against Genie+. "But Thanksgiving week is hella crowded" is not one of them.
 
lazyboy97o

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CaptainAmerica said:
You understand that if this were Thanksgiving 2012, the lines would be just as long, FastPass ticket distribution would have closed at most attractions three hours ago, and you wouldn't have any skip-the-line options, right? Not for $270 or any other amount. You'd have no choice.

There are a lot of good arguments against Genie+. "But Thanksgiving week is hella crowded" is not one of them.
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Neither FastPass, FastPass+ nor Genie+ are skip the line options. That is an important distinction that very much is part of how they make busy times a worse experience.
 
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TQQQ

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CaptainAmerica said:
You understand that if this were Thanksgiving 2012, the lines would be just as long, FastPass ticket distribution would have closed at most attractions three hours ago, and you wouldn't have any skip-the-line options, right? Not for $270 or any other amount. You'd have no choice.

There are a lot of good arguments against Genie+. "But Thanksgiving week is hella crowded" is not one of them.
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terrible arguement..........in 1980 i had a rotary phone and had to stand up to change my TV station,...................2+ hour waits and $270 extra dollars.....thats all that needs to be said

especially when the argument is that they are controlling attendance to make the guest experience (i mean balance sheet) better
 
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Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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Dranth said:
I know it is a small group but I really don’t understand the people who are not happy about this. Iger is an improvement, not a savior, not perfect, not even ideal, not someone I EVER thought I would want to see again but absolutely an improvement. Can anyone, with a straight face, tell me that Chapek was a better CEO than Iger?

Even if they have the exact same ideas and strategies (which they don’t as we are already seeing), doing them in a way that doesn’t p*** off all your employees and customers is a large bonus. Additionally, saving the other divisions that have struggled under Chapek will stop them from using the parks to cover losses/underperformance elsewhere and that will help all aspects of the company.

Even their management style can make a big difference. Chapek seems to have been a control freak while Iger put people in charge to do a job and let them do it. That means the parks have a chance to get better now. It isn’t going to change overnight and who knows, maybe it won’t change at all, but now it has a chance.

Sure, I would have rather them gone out and found the next Walt but given how things played out, this is the best we could realistically hope for and it will at least start to put out the raging dumpster fire Chapek was overseeing.
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Iger is the reason the current company is the way it is.

He is why:
- The company ignores its greater history (with the exception of merch rollouts) in order to promote the legacy of things created under him
- Disney continues to price us out in the parks as a means of “controlling capacity” rather than properly investing in the parks to keep up with demand
- Remakes and acquisitions take priority instead of new ideas.
- Parks are merely viewed as an advertisement for toys and recent movies. Everything must be tied to a movie franchise!
- We got a horribly unqualified successor because he removed all of the executives that could have done a better job than him (famously also an Eisner problem, but Iger never gets criticized for it).
- Disney completely abandoned any interest in the video game industry, ignoring a massive entertainment medium that constantly increases in popularity.

I’m sure I’m missing a lot, but this guy has been horrible for the parks as a whole and has sucked all of the ambition of the company, turning into a soulless machine for Wall Street and the BoD.
 
Br0ckford

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HauntedPirate said:
They should just charge more when people try to tap in. "Sorry, family from Denver, it's busy today, it's going to cost you an additional $89 each, plus tax, to get into the park today. Will you be using Visa, MasterCard, or American Express to pay for that?"

OR!!!

Put Mickey's out front holding sandwich boards telling guests how much more it will cost them before entering the tapstiles. Then security can legitimately say to people who complain, "Sorry folks, the mouse out front should have told you". 😂
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This poor family from Denver gets bounced around so much.
 

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