News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

flynnibus

Premium Member
I need some time to parse the financial statements, but I saw somewhere it was reported that Genie+ alone is already more profitable than Cruise Line.

Well let’s see…. Software margins vs hospitality industry …. And comparing a system in place verse the one spending billions to invest in long term capEx…. And comparing profits?

Seems totally legit…
 

DCLcruiser

Well-Known Member
People here dislike Studios because they've seen all of the shows a thousand times. If you're skipping Frozen, Indy, Beauty and the Best, Lightning, etc. then there's not quite enough to do. If you watch all the shows you need at least a day and a half.
Honestly, I don't watch any shows besides Little Mermaid, bc she forces me lol. I am there for the rides and my own personal nostalgia.

EDIT. I like the nightly show on DCL cruises, I just don't have time or much interest at WDW.
 

Brer Oswald

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I never said he wasn't, I said he is better than Chapek which makes him an improvement and that is something to be happy about. If anyone can look me in the eye and honestly tell me they would rather have Chapek after the last few years then I will show you someone who is smoking a whole lot of crack.
The benefit of rock bottom is that it can force you to reach for new heights.

Or it can lead you back to the source of what led you to rock bottom in the first place. Because “at least it’s better than rock bottom”. Until it isn’t.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Every bad thing about Chapek, other than style, started with Iger.

And tact and ability to balance.

It was like an artist who starts on a piece… who then hands the brushes to a toddler. The output is still ‘art’ but in name only because all the method and purpose were ignored by the toddler. And the result is a mess.

Chapek apparently was obtuse to the idea that you don’t treat your partners and customers as if they were literally walking spreadsheet cells.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
It was like an artist who starts on a piece… who then hands the brushes to a toddler. The output is still ‘art’ but in name only because all the method and purpose were ignored by the toddler. And the result is a mess.
The painting was already going to be a mess, and the artist knew it, so he gave the brushes to the toddler at the worst possible moment so he wouldn't take any of the blame.
 

jaxonp

Well-Known Member
Amazon reportedly is on pace this year to lose $10 billion on Alexa as they've been unable to monetize all those smart devices they've basically given away. It's possible those devices - and other Amazon tech? - may not have much of a future.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...failure-on-pace-to-lose-10-billion-this-year/

Alexa has 68.2% market share of the smart home market and its growing. They lost money using those as loss leaders…

Alexa is here to stay.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
The painting was already going to be a mess, and the artist knew it, so he gave the brushes to the toddler at the worst possible moment so he wouldn't take any of the blame.

Also true… but that is about a moment in time… not a collective comparison of the man’s traits ot strategies.

You could argue it even bolsters the point ghat Iger was more savvy and aware… while chapek was blunt and tactless.

The legacy elements of chapek should be in their attempt to keep paying employees as long as they did during the pandemic and their shoring up of the results until the pandemic bottomed out. Unfortunately their approach on the way out has ruined all ghat goodwill.
 

DCLcruiser

Well-Known Member
Yep. People sometimes forget kids 6 and under and those that can't do thrill for a variety of reasons need things to do too and shows are not the answer. Its a problem at every non MK park and is partially why MK has a crowd problem.
Yes, of course there needs to be low-impact ride options. Disney usually does a great job with offering a variety of rides for small kids and thrill-free adults.
 

jaxonp

Well-Known Member
Loss leaders with no way out…. And new leadership in place. Prepare for changes….

Alexa's success with consumers is threefold:

1. Its easy
2. Its cheap and everywhere
3. It works with nearly everything


Google and Apple only want their devices to work with some companies. Google isn't much better than Apple in this regard. I think Apple knows they've lost the battle with Siri... does Google?
 

jaxonp

Well-Known Member
That's shocking. Google Assistant / Google Home are far superior products to Alexa / Echo, but I guess iOS users are reflexively anti-Google.

How is google far superior? I've used all three and haven't had that experience. I'd put google at number 2 behind Alexa with Apple in a distant third... and this is coming from someone who is deep in the apple koolaid.

The only way google could really compete with Alexa is to give devices away left and right. It's a numbers game at the end of the day. Alexa will lead to more money being spent on amazon over time.
 

SteamboatJoe

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Yes, of course there needs to be low-impact ride options. Disney usually does a great job with offering a variety of rides for small kids and thrill-free adults.
I can't say I agree.

# of rides I think my toddler could do at each park right now...

MK = 16 of 20, soon to be 21 (not counting Mark Twain or WDRR)
Epcot = 7 of 11
DHS = 3 of 7 - maybe 4 of 7 (Slinky)
AK = 3 of 7 (Wildlife Express is not a ride)

Moving princesses, Marvel, Star Wars, and Toy Story to other parks has not been enough. If they want to improve the MK experience and more evenly spread crowds they need more rides and better shows at the non MK parks and put under utilized space in MK to better use.

EDIT: As far as rides go, every non-MK park is under built and MK is still behind DL(nearly 30 rides). Also +3 to MK (13 to 16 b/c PeopleMover, carousel, and Tea Cups).
 
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