News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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GhostHost1000 said:
Exactly. If you think about it, it was a brilliant plan by Iger. Create a mess, add in Covid, select an incompetent CEO, and then point the finger at Chapek for all, pretend to come back ready to save the day from the bed he mostly made himself.
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Here’s the problem(s) for big shot Bobby…

They still aren’t gonna make what amounts to much off D+. The model isn’t conducive to that. Wait until the $20 a month commercial packages are auto renewed…stream cutting Time ⏰

China still isn’t gonna be a lucrative profit machine for them

They still have a couple of their major studios somewhat incapacitated and not able to produce enough to fuel their business properly

Their domestic parks are still under built with nothing coming…Comcast is opening major expansion on both coasts

And…their executive ranks are as low quality/sucks as much as they EVER did…worse than later eisner when it was bandied as an “embarrassment”

…and he’s responsible for all of it. Him. Not Slaphead.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
Even if every indicator points a certain way that doesn’t make it a fact.

As I said your theory is as likely as anyone’s, had you not added the last line alluding to it being a fact I’d have no problem with any of your post, but the reality is it’s absolutely NOT a fact, it’s an educated guess.
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You’re not one to follow semantics and get lost in the smoke screen

So my theory is as likely that he abruptly said “no mas” in February 2020 two weeks before maskapalooza when the world was hosed down with rubbing alcohol? Unprompted by it?
…if so…I got some beans to sell you😎
_caleb said:
Your narrative fills in between actual facts with soap opera-level drama. To make your story (that you’ve repeated many times in this thread) work:
  • Iger alone would have to determine the timing of his retirement. But it doesn’t seem likely that the board would have brought him back if there was bad blood for leaving them in the lurch just as the pandemic broke out.
  • Iger alone “hand” picked Chapek. As though the board had no say, and as if Iger was free to choose anyone in the world to succeed him as CEO.
  • Iger ran the company with an iron fist prior to his first retirement (since you keep saying Chapek’s blunders were entirely Iger’s). But Execs, WDI, and CMs are celebrating Iger’s return.
  • Iger gets all the blame for everything wrong with Disney, and none of the credit for anything good.
I think Iger had hits and misses. I don’t just believe everything (anything?) out of Disney’s PR machine, but I’m also not going to write an entire soap opera story arc about it.

I’m willing to think Iger’s concern about his own legacy might lead him to come back with a very different perspective than he had before.
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A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Switch it to “on”
 
GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Here’s the problem(s) for big shot Bobby…

They still aren’t gonna make what amounts to much off D+. The model isn’t conducive to that. Wait until the $20 a month commercial packages are auto renewed…stream cutting Time ⏰

China still isn’t gonna be a lucrative profit machine for them

They still have a couple of their major studios somewhat incapacitated and not able to produce enough to fuel their business properly

Their domestic parks are still under built with nothing coming…Comcast is opening major expansion on both coasts

And…their executive ranks are as low quality/sucks as much as they EVER did…worse than later eisner when it was bandied as an “embarrassment”

…and he’s responsible for all of it. Him. Not Slaphead.
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Exactly right
 
mightynine

mightynine

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Here’s what they gotta fix, from the WSJ report.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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JoeCamel said:
That was back in April I wonder what the results would be today after all the drama?
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Lower you can assume.
They didn’t get a stock bump when Bobby came back…and Wall Street looks for reasons to lie to themselves for profit.
I don’t imagine people paying crushing prices for declining product are more pleased either…
Trauma said:
Is Iger even capable of making the changes needed to reverse this?

He is the one who started this.

His massive ego is going to allow him to admit he was wrong and change course?

Iger will fail.

At best all he will be able to do is sell the chairs off the Titanic.
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Change them? Fix it?

He made 90% of the decisions that lead them to this point.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Bob Iger has held the power to immediately enact ANY of the following policies the exact moment he returned-

- Improve basic daily/nightly park maintenance and cleanliness
- Get rid of park reservations
- Remove paid Genie+
- Lower prices on tickets/merch/food/etc

Park reservations are the only complaint Iger even responded to. He also didn't answer, saying he's never used them (you don't say) and knows nothing about them, but he'd talk to D'Amaro about it (that means no for those who aren't fluent in BS corporate speak). Maintenance cuts and price hikes have been Iger's bread and butter at WDW LONG before Chapek held any sort of power over the parks. The monetization of Genie+ has also been a long term plan all the way back when "nextgen" was being developed. It makes them money, they're not getting rid of it.

Iger isn't going to fix these complaints, nor does he warrant any sort of "time" to prove this. He could have done so at any moment if he wanted. We've had years of experience to see how he views and treats the parks and guests. It wasn't any different than Chapek. There are no unknowns. If anything, things are going to get even worse. The parks always take the bullet whenever there are losses and failures to be covered for elsewhere in the company.
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“Having the power” to do something doesn’t mean that a wholesale rollback of current policies is a wise course of action.

They need to have a solid strategy (business, operational, PR, etc), or they risk further damaging investor and consumer trust.

Iger is a CEO, not a king.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
You’re not one to follow semantics and get lost in the smoke screen

So my theory is as likely that he abruptly said “no mas” in February 2020 two weeks before maskapalooza when the world was hosed down with rubbing alcohol? Unprompted by it?
…if so…I got some beans to sell you😎

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Switch it to “on”
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Why do you still insist that the timing of Bob’s retirement was entirely and solely his to make?

I thought you had some business experience.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Bob Iger has held the power to immediately enact ANY of the following policies the exact moment he returned-

- Improve basic daily/nightly park maintenance and cleanliness
- Get rid of park reservations
- Remove paid Genie+
- Lower prices on tickets/merch/food/etc

Park reservations are the only complaint Iger even responded to. He also didn't answer, saying he's never used them (you don't say) and knows nothing about them, but he'd talk to D'Amaro about it (that means no for those who aren't fluent in BS corporate speak). Maintenance cuts and price hikes have been Iger's bread and butter at WDW LONG before Chapek held any sort of power over the parks. The monetization of Genie+ has also been a long term plan all the way back when "nextgen" was being developed. It makes them money, they're not getting rid of it.

Iger isn't going to fix these complaints, nor does he warrant any sort of "time" to prove this. He could have done so at any moment if he wanted. We've had years of experience to see how he views and treats the parks and guests. It wasn't any different than Chapek. There are no unknowns. If anything, things are going to get even worse. The parks always take the bullet whenever there are losses and failures to be covered for elsewhere in the company.
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I don’t think they can do ANY of those things…
We passed that mile marker…and people celebrated it
 

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