I don’t know what use there would be in describing specific institutional rot when it permeates every facet of the company. Do you think WDI is as strong of an institution as it was 5, 10, 20 years ago? Do you think consumer products have gotten better? Do you think Disney branded live action is in a better place now than it was 10 years ago? Do you think domestic theme park oppression operations have improved over the last decade? Do you think there are more original ideas coming out of the company in 2022 than in 2002? Do I have to ask more rhetorical questions?
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peter11435
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They’ve literally done it before. If they wanted to they could and DVC would not prevent that
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
How can that be? They took something that people loved and Updated It For Modern Audiences
. That never fails.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…opinions vary.
Implement a line skip for a bloated timeshare that is attached to “premium” rooms that they’ve had a more difficult time selling for a decade or two…
What could go wrong?
Anything needed to replace GMR. When Great Movie Ride was under rehab for 6 months one year and closed I rode it when it reopened. The only thing I noticed that was changed/ improved was the new carpeting at the pre show area.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It would incentivize a mostly grandfathered in timeshare block that doesn’t spend on the things and in the ways that bobs complain about…and that they promised Wall Street their brilliant brands have limitless capacity to get others to spend on.
Dvc rentals would also become way more popular than I think they would be comfortable with. They tolerate it for now.
LSLS
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You also aren't limited to one ride. I can go on the same rides multiple times with my band.
Cedar Point you can also get by without. We went maybe 5 times this summer, and bought it one day. In all honesty, we didn't even need it that day, but we had an early morning competition the next day, so that let us be done by 4. The other days? Throughout the day, just by watching wait times, we were able to hit almost everything, with most being around 30 minute waits or less. Now, we were strategic in picking our days. No holidays, not during the peak of summer, not on weekends, etc. But still. Beyond them setting up better with them, Cedar Point has 22 rides with it (and another dozen or more that aren't a part of it). DHS, there are 12. And that doesn't include like 2 more rides. DAK it's like 11, and then like 2 more without it. Which goes back to the point that they are just horribly underbuilt.
peter11435
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It’s not really an opinion. They have done it before and they could do it again. Those are facts. Whether or not it’s a good idea, now that is an opinion.
There are several reasons why they would likely never do it and why it wouldn’t work well. DVC really isn’t one of them
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They’re not giving special ride access in crowded parks to people who pay for rooms anyway…you know that.
Things would have to be bad before they consider it…which makes it moot.
peter11435
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There’s no reason to do it unless they feel it’s necessary to sell rooms. Or to sell certain rooms. And they have done it before
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Sure…when they had close to comfortable park capacity.
Incentives during downtimes? Yeah…that’s a possibility
I went Sunday evening for a few hours. it was packed. Rise was 95 min. didn't notice the others as i didn't wander over to that side of the park.
Well, Deluxe guests now get extra time in select parks on select days. Which, IMO, is the best way to give certain groups ride privileges in that they're not cutting the regular guests in lines.
Also, Club Level guests used to have access to better FP+ options (which they paid for).
peter11435
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It wasn’t that long ago.
They could do something like what they are doing with the Minnie Vans. Offer it to guests in Club Level rooms.
Heppenheimer
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Critical Drinker, is that you?How can that be? They took something that people loved and Updated It For Modern Audiences
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…well that knocks out about 500 rooms…only 33,000 to go
pdude81
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This is all an odd argument as the huge number of DVC "deluxe" rooms and guest capacity means they can't give everybody free line skips without making the value of the same product much less for the other people they need to pay full price for it. Plus we know there is no "giving" anything away. If DVC is getting it, then they are paying for it in some way.
I get that peter is saying they can technically do this even if it's a dumb idea, but other than the on-site FP+ window for what really are on-site hotels, when did they give line skips to DVC?
I get that peter is saying they can technically do this even if it's a dumb idea, but other than the on-site FP+ window for what really are on-site hotels, when did they give line skips to DVC?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You never “needed” line skips like this. Because you could navigate around lines and not crush the system.
They have a straight up, unfettered capacity problem. They didn’t build enough during the saviour Bob era to be able to adjust to different crowd levels.
That is the problem. The rest of this is just coffee house crap talk.
Disone
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Compared to Universal it's it bigger but not sure if it would be as difficult as imagined. Just for conversation.....
Deluxe at Universal is 2400 rooms for two parks that's 1200 per park.
Disney Deluxe and DVC combine for 10380 room. Divided by four parks 2595 per park.
Universals is unlimited. If Disney put a limit I think it would be doable and a great incentive for deluxe and DVC stay.