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[CaptainMickey]

If you think Encanto sucks, it’s because you really wanted to think that.

Encanto is definitely the best of the lot. Great music and a great song can really help make a movie much better. Disney need to remember that.

Frozen II was not near as good as the first. Especially when you consider the music! Any follow up to frozen would make a ton of cash, good or bad.

 

[Rteetz]

Encanto is definitely the best of the lot. Great music and a great song can really help make a movie much better. Disney need to remember that.

Frozen II was not near as good as the first. Especially when you consider the music! Any follow up to frozen would make a ton of cash, good or bad.

I liked the music better in the second even lol

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I liked the music better in the second even lol

Yes. It's very rare for the pop version of a soundtrack's featured song to be any good, but the Kacey Musgraves cover of "All is Found" is legit.

Neither movie has a discernable or comprehensible plot though.

 

[CaptainMickey]

It’s extremely hard to compare when she was working through a pandemic that shut down theaters and forced companies to reevaluate how they do things. These 45 days in theaters to Disney+ hurts theater numbers.

Not talking about the numbers. I totally get the pandemic hitting the numbers. I'm talking about the STORIES. I'm talking about creatively, the movies are just not as good. They can't seem to write good stories now. Average seems to be the best they can do right now. Hopefully that improves with everyone back in the office.

 

[Rteetz]

Not talking about the numbers. I totally get the pandemic hitting the numbers. I'm talking about the STORIES. I'm talking about creatively, the movies are just not as good. They can't seem to write good stories now. Average seems to be the best they can do right now. Hopefully that improves with everyone back in the office.

I do agree Raya was below average. However I think Encanto is fantastic.

 

[Incomudro]

I like Frozen II better than Frozen in terms of movie. You can’t say they weren’t successes tho. Good or not, $1B+ isn’t something that every film does.

McDonald's sells billions of hamburgers.
Terrible hamburgers.

 

[Casper Gutman]

So we’ve suddenly decided Frozen is a bad movie? I didn’t get that memo.

 

[Touchdown]

Also can anyone remember who directed Frozen?

 

[todd23]

If we're doing "hooray for absolute garbage that makes a lot of money," then Genie+ is a better theme park achievement than Spaceship Earth. Because that's what Frozen 2 is. It's cinematic Genie+.

I enjoyed Frozen 2, and it was even better the second time watching it, after watching the excellent making of documentary on Disney+.

 

[Lilofan]

McDonald's sells billions of hamburgers.
Terrible hamburgers

Walking distance to 24/7 McDonalds by All Star Resort. Better quality than what’s served at the resort.

 

[Heppenheimer]

So we’ve suddenly decided Frozen is a bad movie? I didn’t get that memo.

Personally, I never liked it, which is odd for a Disney fan who loves winter and visiting Scandinavia.

Three main reasosn. The movie wrote Elsa as a villain without realizing it. We're supposed to cheer for her even though she's objectively an awful queen and not even a particularly good sister.

Two, it was clearly written by people who've spent too much time in southern California. Snow in Scandinavia? Oh, no, what a catastrophe!!!

Third, I find Olaf annoying. Even more so because I had a very sweet Cavalier King Charles Spaniel who I named Olaf before the movie came out. Everyone thought he was named after the snowman, when in fact his name was chosen years before.

I could go on, but won't. Clearly I wasn't the target audience. I can't deny the music was good, though.

 

[JoeCamel]

Personally, I never liked it, which is odd for a Disney fan who loves winter and visiting Scandinavia.

Three main reasosn. The movie wrote Elsa as a villain without realizing it. We're supposed to cheer for her even though she's objectively an awful queen and not even a particularly good sister.

Two, it was clearly written by people who've spent too much time in southern California. Snow in Scandinavia? Oh, no, what a catastrophe!!!

Third, I find Olaf annoying. Even more so because I had a very sweet Cavalier King Charles Spaniel who I named Olaf before the movie came out. Everyone thought he was named after the snowman, when in fact his name was chosen years before.

I could go on, but won't. Clearly I wasn't the target audience. I can't deny the music was good, though.

Oooo, poor Olaf, give him an ear scratch for me

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Personally, I never liked it, which is odd for a Disney fan who loves winter and visiting Scandinavia.

Three main reasosn. The movie wrote Elsa as a villain without realizing it. We're supposed to cheer for her even though she's objectively an awful queen and not even a particularly good sister.

Two, it was clearly written by people who've spent too much time in southern California. Snow in Scandinavia? Oh, no, what a catastrophe!!!

Third, I find Olaf annoying. Even more so because I had a very sweet Cavalier King Charles Spaniel who I named Olaf before the movie came out. Everyone thought he was named after the snowman, when in fact his name was chosen years before.

I could go on, but won't. Clearly I wasn't the target audience. I can't deny the music was good, though.

I'll add...

Nothing  happens. It feels like the grand adventure to the North Mountain takes like a day and aside from a brief encounter with wolves and a shopkeeper with limited inventory, there aren't really any stumbling blocks that our heroes need to overcome.

I also think the animation itself is pretty poor. The characters all look like plastic action figures. And the environments are just blue and white smooth backdrops with no texture or anything else to generate visual interest. It's like a PlayStation 2 snow level that they forgot to finish.

 

[dreday3]

If we're doing "hooray for absolute garbage that makes a lot of money," then Genie+ is a better theme park achievement than Spaceship Earth. Because that's what Frozen 2 is. It's cinematic Genie+.

I liked Frozen II. Much better than the first one.
I can't believe people are complaining about the songs???
Show Yourself is phenomenal.

To each his own, but you're wrong.

As an aside, I feel like Tangled never gets the love it deserves. That movie is just plain excellent. Loved it from start to finish.
Moana and Encanto were great too, but Tangled is better.

 

[RobWDW1971]

So we’ve suddenly decided Frozen is a bad movie? I didn’t get that memo.

It was in the same memo where we decided Strange World is a "resounding success".

Need to make sure you're on the distribution list.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I liked Frozen II. Much better than the first one.
I can't believe people are complaining about the songs???
Show Yourself is phenomenal.

I much prefer Frozen II over Frozen but dislike both. Frozen II is a MUCH better soundtrack.

I also hate Zootopia for good measure.

Moana and Tangled rule and Encanto is pretty good.

 

[Trauma]

I much prefer Frozen II over Frozen but dislike both. Frozen II is a MUCH better soundtrack.

I also hate Zootopia for good measure.

Moana and Tangled rule and Encanto is pretty good.

I can get being meh on zootopia by why hate?

It’s better than most of the more recent offerings.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I can get being meh on zootopia by why hate?

It’s better than most of the more recent offerings.

The allegory didn't land. And furries.

 

[dreday3]

Zootopia was good, not great.

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed Luca! I don't know if it's because of growing up Italian-American, but that movie was just sweet and joyful for me.

I did not like Lightyear. Fell asleep and never finished it

 

[Heppenheimer]

Oooo, poor Olaf, give him an ear scratch for me

I would, but unfortunately we lost him to premature heart failure last year.

I'll pass the ear scratch onto Bella and Sawyer.