News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

[Heppenheimer]

I liked Frozen II. Much better than the first one.
I can't believe people are complaining about the songs???
Show Yourself is phenomenal.

To each his own, but you're wrong.

As an aside, I feel like Tangled never gets the love it deserves. That movie is just plain excellent. Loved it from start to finish.
Moana and Encanto were great too, but Tangled is better.

I give Moana and Tangled a tie as the two best films since Disney Feature Animation made the switch to computers.

 

[Incomudro]

Zootopia was good, not great.

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed Luca! I don't know if it's because of growing up Italian-American, but that movie was just sweet and joyful for me.

I couldn't make it through Encanto.
Tried it one dreary morning when no one was home, and just really couldn't get into it.
When I paused it for whatever reason, I never had the desire to go back to it.
A short time after that, I gave Princess and the Frog a go - and really liked that.
Probably due in part in that although I do like many cgi movies (Cars, Finding Nemo, Toy Story, Moana...) the more traditional look and less frenetic pace of PatF appealed to me much more.

 

[JoeCamel]

I would, but unfortunately we lost him to premature heart failure last year.

I'll pass the ear scratch onto Bella and Sawyer.

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Sorry.....

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

My GF just sent me a pic of Bob and Josh at DL, she said the crowd was cheering, she said they also stopped, shook hands, and were talking with the people waiting for the Candlelight processional.

This is something I don’t think we’d have ever seen with Chapek. It’s nice to see Disney fans excited about Disney management again.

 

[Touchdown]

S Tier: Tangled, Moana, Frozen
A Tier: Wreck it Ralph, Encanto, Frozen 2, Zootopia, Big Hero 6
B Tier: Bolt, Raya, Ralph Breaks the Internet
C Tier: Meet the Robinsons
D Tier: Chicken Little

Definitions:
S: Will never get sick of
A: Happy to watch again in the right mood
B: I may rarely watch it again
C: You need to convince me
D: No

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

A better photo from after they stopped and were talking to the crowd… looks like Josh’ job is safe.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

A better photo from after they stopped and were talking to the crowd… looks like Josh’ job is safe.

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He did say he had to ask him about a few things!

Did Chapek ever dare to venture into the parks after he became CEO beyond his brief appearance for the 50th at MK?

 

[Ghost93]

Raya and Encanto are both pandemic movies that struggled due to that and I think poor management under the Chapek regime. Encanto has become a cultural hit tho.

I think Raya and Encanto would have both made a lot of money had the pandemic never happened. Raya had hardly any marketing and was released in theaters when most people weren't vaccinated. It was also a day-in-date release on Disney Plus with an absurd $30 price tag! In an ideal world, Raya would have come out for Thanksgiving 2020 and the trailers for Raya would have played in front of movies like Black Widow, Mulan, Soul and Eternals.

Encanto never had the chance to have legs due to Disney advertising in advance that it would be on Disney plus only a month after release.

With Luca and Turning Red, we'll never know as those were never given the option to play in theaters — despite being better movies than both Lightyear and Strange World.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I worked in music retail and owned my own store during that period of time…I have firsthand knowledge of what happened to the music industry…

It was mainly a combination of two factors….
1) the 5 major labels: WEA (Warner Bros), Sony, Capitol, MCA & PMD (Polygram) were (at the time), run by old time record executives and believed they were the “Kings of the industry”, a legal cartel if you will, that were CONVINCED that downloading was a fad, something that would NEVER effect their business…they were too big to fail…(SOUND FAMILIAR, DISNEY?). As events unfolded, they learned QUICKLY, they failed to prepare for the future.

The second catastrophe for the music business was Napster. My store was a full service store, but specialized in dance music. I sold 12” singles, domestic and import and supplied every club and DJ at the Jersey shore and had DJ’s from as far away as DE, PA,& NY.
My good DJ customers would meet the UPS driver and as fast as I unpacked the vinyl, they would buy it. Within 3 months, my business slowed to a crawl. WHY? DJ’s we’re downloading the music from Napster. They went from carrying milk crates out of my store to spinning music from a laptop. On top of that, 9/11 happened and we were in the midst of a recession. 1 hurdle I could’ve weathered…3 hurdles, impossible. After 7 years, I had no other alternative but to close my store and try to sell my inventory.
The major labels learned that computers were the new way to deliver music. We, as an industry couldn’t compete with free and the majors had to scramble to make money off downloading. They never thought twice about the major chains that were their outlets, Record Town, Record World, Sam Goody, Tower, the Wiz and more plus the independents. In 2001, there was no Apple Music.
This is the example I always use when people talk about UNI creeping up on Disney. They too think they’re the kings of the hill…when you’re on top, there’s only one way to go…and it ain’t up.

Did you ever tell me the name of your store? I’m from Jersey originally and 12” singles are my jam.

I remember visiting after I moved and staying in a hotel near Asbury Park, and buying a bunch of stuff over several trips from a place that was closing. I think it was mostly CDs, though.

I own 2 record stores in South Florida now, but started the biz online only from 1999-2010. I specialized in CD singles back then, and many of those obscure tracks still aren’t on iTunes to this day.

Print media is absolutely thriving again. If sound quality matters to you, it’s a no-brainer. I hate when a favorite song comes on Sirius XM in the car, I turn the volume all the way up, and it’s not loud enough (and doesn’t sound that great.) Pop in the same CD, and I don’t need to turn it all the way up.

Vinyl is dominant, but I’m very concerned because prices are skyrocketing totally out of proportion.

Btw I can’t reply to your DM because it shows “not open for further replies.”

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Did you ever tell me the name of your store? I’m from Jersey originally and 12” singles are my jam.

I remember visiting after I moved and staying in a hotel near Asbury Park, and buying a bunch of stuff over several trips from a place that was closing. I think it was mostly CDs, though.

I own 2 record stores in South Florida now, but started the biz online only from 1999-2010. I specialized in CD singles back then, and many of those obscure tracks still aren’t on iTunes to this day.

Print media is absolutely thriving again. If sound quality matters to you, it’s a no-brainer. I hate when a favorite song comes on Sirius XM in the car, I turn the volume all the way up, and it’s not loud enough (and doesn’t sound that great.) Pop in the same CD, and I don’t need to turn it all the way up.

Vinyl is dominant, but I’m very concerned because prices are skyrocketing totally out of proportion.

Btw I can’t reply to your DM because it shows “not open for further replies.”

I don’t know what happened…but glad you replied.
It was Smiley’s Tunes & Toys on Rt. 37 in Toms River opened from September 1996 to July 2003 I sold CDs, cassettes, CD singles, import CD dance compilations & collectible toys.

My brother and best friend sell vinyl at 3 flea markets every week and record shows monthly. From what they tell me, yes, prices are going up and supply is going down. DM me if you have any other questions…I don’t want to hijack the thread anymore than I already did. Lol

 

[Heppenheimer]

Did you ever tell me the name of your store? I’m from Jersey originally and 12” singles are my jam.

I remember visiting after I moved and staying in a hotel near Asbury Park, and buying a bunch of stuff over several trips from a place that was closing. I think it was mostly CDs, though.

I own 2 record stores in South Florida now, but started the biz online only from 1999-2010. I specialized in CD singles back then, and many of those obscure tracks still aren’t on iTunes to this day.

Print media is absolutely thriving again. If sound quality matters to you, it’s a no-brainer. I hate when a favorite song comes on Sirius XM in the car, I turn the volume all the way up, and it’s not loud enough (and doesn’t sound that great.) Pop in the same CD, and I don’t need to turn it all the way up.

Vinyl is dominant, but I’m very concerned because prices are skyrocketing totally out of proportion.

Btw I can’t reply to your DM because it shows “not open for further replies.”

I've noticed that too with Sirius. A lot of the Beatles songs don't sound properly mixed.

 

[monothingie]

And his ego grew three sizes that day!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A better photo from after they stopped and were talking to the crowd… looks like Josh’ job is safe.

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No reason to assume he’s safe other than parks guy always does EXACTLY what head guy says…so did chapek

He did say he had to ask him about a few things!

Did Chapek ever dare to venture into the parks after he became CEO beyond his brief appearance for the 50th at MK?

He was spotted in the DL parks occasionally…but in retrospect…it was this past year when he already was in trouble.

 

[Coaster Lover]

C Tier: Meet the Robinsons

Meet the Robinsons was a cool concept with poor execution... but Bowler Hat Guy is low key one of my favorite Disney Villians post the Disney Renaissance Era (right up there with Yzma)...

 

[Angel Ariel]

The movie wrote Elsa as a villain without realizing it. We're supposed to cheer for her even though she's objectively an awful queen and not even a particularly good sister.

I don’t think it was “without realizing it.” The movie was originally a take on the Snow Queen fairy tale, in which the snow queen is absolutely the villain. I recall seeing an interview - maybe in the frozen docuseries on Disney+? - about how they had drafted the story very much with Elsa as an intended villain, more in line with the original fairy tale, and then changed it during production (maybe after the inspiration for let it go?)

 

[Angel Ariel]

I liked Frozen II. Much better than the first one.
I can't believe people are complaining about the songs???
Show Yourself is phenomenal.

To each his own, but you're wrong.

As an aside, I feel like Tangled never gets the love it deserves. That movie is just plain excellent. Loved it from start to finish.
Moana and Encanto were great too, but Tangled is better.

Show yourself made me and my daughter cry for the longest time (esp the “you are the one you’ve been waiting for” part). DD has disabilities and struggles to communicate (I.e. “show herself) - this song resonated very much with both of us.

 

[MisterPenguin]

People are free to like or dislike individual movies.

People aren't free to extend their like or dislike to everyone else as if everyone else agrees with them unless there's some proof (tho, absent a nation- or world-wide scientific poll, the measure we have for 'good' or 'bad' isn't perfect).

One measure we have for good or bad are from ratings. Critics are polled, so, we know what a majority of them think. Audience members are self-selecting and self-reporting, so, that can skew the results. Tho, CinemaScore polls audiences on opening weekends.

Another measure of good or bad is the financial one. People make movies not only for the art, but for a living, and thus, a desire for profit. So, we ask: Was the movie profitable.

Unfortunately, the pandemic threw things out of whack over the past few years. I would argue -- strongly -- that using the usual metrics of theatrical success over the past few years isn't going to give you the same measure as it would have been pre-pandemic.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This isn’t about frozen at all…

It’s more like a loss of “religion”

 

[Tom P.]

No one sets out to make a bad film (except maybe Troma, but that's their bread and butter) Box Office does not reflect the quality of a film - see Scott Pilgrim and all Transformers movies. At the end of the day no one can fully predict if an audience will go out for a film release or not. But hopefully studios can learn the right lessons from BO failures as well as successes. Marvel runs itself and Fiege is bold. Lucasfilm has always been timid with the films, but TV has emboldened them more for sure. Animations long lead time always leads to some guesswork - will this movie that we wrote 3-4 years ago play the way we want it to play today when it's released?
So what's my point?
I don't know. But I've always loved movies, at home, at the theater, on a plane, wherever.

Since the advent of Mystery Science Theater 3000 and its offshoots like RiffTrax, the creators have spoken about some filmmakers who have deliberately created bad films to attempt to get them on those shows. But basically, I believe your point is correct.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

Neither movie has a discernable or comprehensible plot though.

I think this is wrong in regards to the Frozen 2 plot. The reveal of the song referring to the river is still such a good element of the plot.