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_caleb

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I think they are the past, present and future. The way cinema has bounced back post Covid has really been surprising. If Avatar 2 goes off like the original did cinemas return will be complete.
You know that the major theater chains are going bankrupt, fewer and fewer movies are busting blocks, and people are going to the movies far less than they ever have, right? And this began well before COVID. The entire industry knows this, and it’s why they’re all in on streaming. They don’t want to be stuck selling CDs to an audiences who have iPods.
 

LittleBuford

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Which movie? Minions was a fun, funny, exciting ride.

Turning Red was a movie about menstrual cycles.

Which has a better chance at success?
For those who told me off for supposedly playing dumb: this is what I meant about surprising answers.

Have you watched Turning Red? I can only assume you haven't, because it's hardly accurate to say that the film is about menstrual cycles.
 

_caleb

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So wrong as evident even Netflix has come full circle and
Is now making bank at theaters.

Netflix did The Disney Plus goal better.
Netflix is indeed giving some of its originals a short theatrical window. If people are willing to pay $12 to see in a theater what they can see at home as part of their monthly subscription, what’s that to Netflix? This is NOT the same thing as going back to the glory days of multiplex double features.
 

Tom P.

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Everyone else is dancing around it for fear of being called mean names, but I'll just say it outright: I am not interested in watching any movie focused on same sex romances because I personally have religious objections to them. Please note that I am *not* saying I think Disney should be prohibited from making them or that theaters should be stopped from showing them. I'm just saying that for me, as a consumer, those are movies I'll not be paying to watch.

Now, call me a bigot. Go ahead, I'm a big boy, I promise you won't hurt my feelings. But that's not the point.

The point is that whether you like it or not, whether you approve or disapprove, whether you think it's backward and bigoted and hateful and homophobic, there is a portion of the moviegoing public -- and I tend to think a more significant portion than people want to admit -- who just aren't interested in movies that feature gay romances. And those people have the right to buy or not buy movie tickets for whatever reasons matter to them.

So then the question becomes whether Disney is more interested in the revenue or whether they are more interested in doing what they think is right, making social statements, etc. I don't know the answer to that. But I think it would be a mistake to avoid the question.
 

Trauma

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For those who told me off for supposedly playing dumb: this is what I meant about surprising answers.

Have you watched Turning Red? I can only assume you haven't, because it's hardly accurate to say that the film is about menstrual cycles.
Is Turning Red about having your period?


It comes along with unexpected hair growth, body odours, and seeing the colour red in… new places. And that's what Disney Pixar's Turning Red is all about! The latest Pixar movie has many people asking “is turning red a period metaphor?” and the answer is YES!Jun 2, 2022


This is the answer google gives. 🤷‍♂️
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
So wrong as evident even Netflix has come full circle and
Is now making bank at theaters.

Netflix did The Disney Plus goal better.
I don’t think theaters are dead…but the financial strife is real. They are incredibly low margin…they can’t take any dip in revenue and survive
For those who told me off for supposedly playing dumb: this is what I meant about surprising answers.

Have you watched Turning Red? I can only assume you haven't, because it's hardly accurate to say that the film is about menstrual cycles.
You’re battling under the bridge there, treat it like it’s a road game in his den
 

LittleBuford

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So then the question becomes whether Disney is more interested in the revenue or whether they are more interested in doing what they think is right, making social statements, etc. I don't know the answer to that. But I think it would be a mistake to avoid the question.
You're assuming, however, that the money lost from those who feel as you do outweighs the money gained from those who welcome greater diversity. Perhaps that's the case now—I don't know the data, if any is out there to begin with—but I believe that Disney's progressivism will ultimately prove a wise choice from a financial perspective also.
 

TwilightZone

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Lightyear, Eternals and Strange World flopped because they are considered to be bad movies.
Not only that, but Lightyear's concept is terrible. It's confusing and once you wrap your head around it, it doesn't get any better. Plus it feels like a sad attempt to create a final toy story cash grab.

It's a movie about a movie about a spaceman that inspired a toy that inspired Andy to want said toy.

UGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 

Tom P.

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You're assuming, however, that the money lost from those who feel as you do outweighs the money gained from those who welcome greater diversity. Perhaps that's the case now—I don't know the data, if any is out there to begin with—but I believe that Disney's progressivism will ultimately prove a wise choice from a financial perspective also.
That's a fair point as well. And, like you, I don't know the answer.
 

TwilightZone

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The thing is, I think its too late. The left side are fed up after Disney animation tried so many times saying "look, here's our first gay character!" and that character ended up being a side character at best, or barely featured in the movie at worst. The right side are fed up with having representation there at all. And now that we got two movies that do have gay main characters, neither side are really happy anymore.

But that's enough from me don't want to derail too hard 😉
 

LittleBuford

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Is Turning Red about having your period?


It comes along with unexpected hair growth, body odours, and seeing the colour red in… new places. And that's what Disney Pixar's Turning Red is all about! The latest Pixar movie has many people asking “is turning red a period metaphor?” and the answer is YES!Jun 2, 2022


This is the answer google gives. 🤷‍♂️
It's a film about growing up. Yes, menstruation features in the story, and perhaps it's possible (though in my mind a stretch) to interpret the whole thing as a metaphor about periods, but it's not a film about menstruation per se.
 

LittleBuford

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The thing is, I think its too late. The left side are fed up after Disney animation tried so many times saying "look, here's our first gay character!" and that character ended up being a side character at best, or barely featured in the movie at worst. The right side are fed up with having representation there at all. And now that we got two movies that do have gay main characters, neither side are really happy anymore.

But that's enough from me don't want to derail too hard 😉
I'm on the left and don't feel this way, for what it's worth.
 

SirLink

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And you think those three movies underperformed because of the existence of gay people in them? Lightyear, Eternals and Strange World flopped because they are considered to be bad movies. Take every scene with reference to gay relationships out (which would barely have any effect on runtime), and they're still bad. Strange World flopped even worse because it had no prior attachment to a popular IP and anemic advertisement.

They factually under performed when your basically saying no to the potential money from the Middle Kingdom if they granted a release which they deffo wouldn't with that material in and say no to money from the middle east.

You had the first Marvel movie with an openly gay romance - box office analysts were predicting $600million global couldn't even muster $200million in the North American box office. Lightyear a film based on Pixar bread and butter that should have had people at least going to the cinema to see couldn't even muster a fifth of Toy Story 4.
 

Serpico Jones

Well-Known Member
So wrong as evident even Netflix has come full circle and
Is now making bank at theaters.

Netflix did The Disney Plus goal better.
The theatrical exhibition business these days is a case of the haves and have-nots and the haves are not enough to support that business moving forward. Every single weekend it’s pretty much bombs galore with very few exceptions.
 

dreday3

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Everyone else is dancing around it for fear of being called mean names, but I'll just say it outright: I am not interested in watching any movie focused on same sex romances because I personally have religious objections to them. Please note that I am *not* saying I think Disney should be prohibited from making them or that theaters should be stopped from showing them. I'm just saying that for me, as a consumer, those are movies I'll not be paying to watch.

Now, call me a bigot. Go ahead, I'm a big boy, I promise you won't hurt my feelings. But that's not the point.

The point is that whether you like it or not, whether you approve or disapprove, whether you think it's backward and bigoted and hateful and homophobic, there is a portion of the moviegoing public -- and I tend to think a more significant portion than people want to admit -- who just aren't interested in movies that feature gay romances. And those people have the right to buy or not buy movie tickets for whatever reasons matter to them.

So then the question becomes whether Disney is more interested in the revenue or whether they are more interested in doing what they think is right, making social statements, etc. I don't know the answer to that. But I think it would be a mistake to avoid the question.

That's your right. You said why and you're not asking anyone to stop making these movies or boycott, you just won't go.
Do I agree with your stance? No, but I also have a few thoughts on (any) organized religion... :D

But I will say I think "your" way of thinking is well on the way out. Things are changing, it's painful for some at first, but in another generation (or 2) I think quite a few of you on this thread are going to be dinosaurs. (In thinking, not age ;) )

Also, I can agree that both sides go too far at times and even I raise an eyebrow at things.
 

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