jt04
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Edutainment still has a place in small doses.
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Bob Chapek Confirms Disney Will Overhaul Epcot
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Edutainment still has a place in small doses.
lazyboy97o
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This is such trite nonsense. There is no singular way to run a business, much less one that views your business as stupid. The profit and success of themed entertainment is what kept Disney afloat in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Nothing about treating themed entertainment as its own medium makes it unprofitable.
CinematicFusion
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Trash show? I haven't even seen it yet.
Why is it going to be so terrible. What part of the show did you not like? Is the ending horrible. How does it start?
lazyboy97o
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It's the same clip show formula that has been done several times before.
CinematicFusion
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I made a simple statement that is true and I didn't expand on it....and I hurt your feelings. I'm sorry.
I'll stand by what I said. Trite nonsense as it may be.
lazyboy97o
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You didn't make a simple statement. You very clearly implied that others are somehow unaware that them parks are a business and that the current direction is the only direction.
CinematicFusion
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Maybe. I have no idea what it will be. I know illuminations needs refreshing. It's a 20 year old dated show.
Now....will it be terrible? Maybe
Have to wait and find out and then yeah....rip on it all you want if it lacks emotion and relevance.
Tip your hat if it's awesome.
Hurt my feelings? Don't flatter yourself. I'm well aware of what Disney is and does.
CinematicFusion
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What? Man I'm just typing with a cup of coffee... Honest.
To make you feel better, there are exactly 12 million possible combinations Disney could take in regards to the theme parks.
My point is based on what they are doing up to this point starting in 2012 with New Fantasyland. Disney's path seems pretty clear.
I could be wrong...but look at the blueprint Disney has been throwing down with the theme parks since 2012.
Show me what I'm missing.
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CinematicFusion
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Wait...who are you? What did you post? I'm talking to Lazyboy because he said my opinions are trite nonsense.
Which they may be.... but I stand by them.
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You quoted me but then changed the quoted comment.
There's a way to incorporate movie IP tastefully. But since Chapek and Iger have no taste, they use the square-peg-round-hole, use-a-jackhammer approach. Their ego's won't allow for anything else.
CinematicFusion
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It's cool, you and AJH219 have a vision of the park you want to see. AJH219 sent a message to me that sent the joy out of this conversation. Maybe you side with his opinons...I'm not sure.
Personally, I just want to have a good time with my kids while I still can. Hope it all works well for you and the vision of the park you want to see. I'm out.
Magenta Panther
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The true EPCOT would never have happened without Walt, and because he died, it didn't. If he had lived and had initially pulled it off, the question would THEN have been: how long would it have survived?
Sadly, I'm guessing: not long. The 60's took a very radical, less-than-sunny turn that would not have been tolerant of Walt's hopeful philosophy. But of course that's all conjecture. The fact is, we'll never know.
Odd coming from me perhaps, but thank god E.P.C.O.T. never happened.
Magenta Panther
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If you're referring to the idea that EPCOT, if fully executed, might have bankrupted the Disney company, then, sadly, I agree...
It was a noble idea. Walt wanted (as you know) to use the lessons learned from Disneyland to help solve real-world problems like urban blight. But noble ideas often go astray in the turbulence that is reality...
The city that would have been outdated and unsustainable with a decade. Not even slapping IP everywhere could have saved it.
As we know, a lot of ideas from the city were used in WDWs in the first 15 years. But as a development I think it would have been a blight. A folly. And ultimately a failure.
PizzaPlanet
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That's literally what everyone said about all of Walt's big innovations, from the first full-length animated feature to Disneyland Park. And look how those projects turned out.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
It is possible the city would have been outdated within a decade, however many of us live in cities which in many ways have been outdated for several decades and still exist.
I think another thread for this would be prudent....I'll make one in the general discussion forum
I think another thread for this would be prudent....I'll make one in the general discussion forum
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
agree completely...none of us would have our vacation enclaves as we know it if they went down that path