Oh, I know. But if they get to repeat their negative opinion, I... and maybe everyone reading along, should restate their opinion.
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
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Disney Irish
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So you are judging something without actually experiencing it first hand, big surprise.... You're literally judging a book (or movie this case) by its cover.
So basically you're opinion on this subject really means very little.
MickeyMouse10
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You should probably base your opinions on whether a movie is good or not. Not on how many black females are lead characters or LG+ representation.
Jedijax719
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You should take your own advice.
Who said anything about liking the film because of LG+ or black female representation if we like it… it’s cause we watched the movie… the only thing we understand by watching a trailer is whether the trailer is good or not.
The only one who cares sbout Black female representation is you…all we care about is the story any good based on what the movie was trying to accomplish
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Sounds like someone is projecting…..
MickeyMouse10
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Most threads say this jibberish. Have you seen the Strange World thread?
MickeyMouse10
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Wokeanda had a 80% drop in it's 2nd week. Whoa that's big! I guess the people who have supposedly seen it twice isn't helping enough.
The reason for the droppage is simple. It just doesn't look like something you need to see at the movie theaters. It's the type of movie where you're like "I paid my $1.99 for D+... might as well. Nothing else is on this lousy streaming service."
The reason for the droppage is simple. It just doesn't look like something you need to see at the movie theaters. It's the type of movie where you're like "I paid my $1.99 for D+... might as well. Nothing else is on this lousy streaming service."
Jedijax719
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Umm......no. Fake news. Go back to watching Fox Snoosze
LSLS
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That's actually a pretty unfair comparison. A lot of people and schools were off last Friday for Veterans Day. Also, does that friday number include thursday? I cant fine the thursday preview as a standalone. A Saturday comparison is a bit more fair, so hopefully we get those numbers pretty soon.
Jedijax719
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$67.3 million second weekend for BPWF
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Yes…and most people are commenting on the trailer not the actual movie because no one has seen it
Jedijax719
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Little anecdote (not saying this is happening, just some fun).
I've been part of a major Star Wars forum for years. For months in 2019, there was a poster that would go on and on about how horrible SW is and how it's this and that. This poster went on about how Marvel is superior and would just be relentless to the point that trolling was an understatement. There were many many attempts to get the poster banned, but moderators would seemingly be defending the person (despite others doing the same being chased off). The banter between this poster and pretty much everyone increased and got worse.Then the moderators stepped in and almost seemed to pander to the poster. In the last week of March, it seemed the moderators were supporting that poster much to the chagrin of everyone else UNTIL March 31 when the banter became comical. One particular moderator seemed to love that poster and, finally, on April 1, it was revealed (or rather figured out) that the entire moderator board had planned the April fools joke on the entire forum. It was classic!
MickeyMouse10 reminds me a LOT of that type of banter and trolling. Hmmm.........the only thing is we are WAY off from April 1 so it's a bit early. That said, there is something VERY odd about Mickey10's posts and how they are allowed continuously without any moderator chiming in.
I've been part of a major Star Wars forum for years. For months in 2019, there was a poster that would go on and on about how horrible SW is and how it's this and that. This poster went on about how Marvel is superior and would just be relentless to the point that trolling was an understatement. There were many many attempts to get the poster banned, but moderators would seemingly be defending the person (despite others doing the same being chased off). The banter between this poster and pretty much everyone increased and got worse.Then the moderators stepped in and almost seemed to pander to the poster. In the last week of March, it seemed the moderators were supporting that poster much to the chagrin of everyone else UNTIL March 31 when the banter became comical. One particular moderator seemed to love that poster and, finally, on April 1, it was revealed (or rather figured out) that the entire moderator board had planned the April fools joke on the entire forum. It was classic!
MickeyMouse10 reminds me a LOT of that type of banter and trolling. Hmmm.........the only thing is we are WAY off from April 1 so it's a bit early. That said, there is something VERY odd about Mickey10's posts and how they are allowed continuously without any moderator chiming in.
That’s just the Friday -Friday gross and is a pretty common for major blockbusters with all the people excited to be among the 1st to see…the weekend should be closer to 60% which I think is actually decent because I am sure there are quite a few waiting for The Thanksgiving holiday….typically one of the biggest weeks of the year for movie theaters
“Wakanda Forever,” which opened to $181 million and has generated $288 million in North America and $546.3 million globally to date. The film’s 63% drop was steeper than expected. Industry sources had expected a sophomore weekend of more than $70 million in ticket sales.
By comparison, the original “Black Panther” — which ignited to a blockbuster $202 million in 2018 — declined just 44.7% in its second weekend with $111 million. But that registered as especially remarkable second-weekend business. Only six movies in history (four of which were Marvel) have generated at least $100 million in their sophomore outings. More recent MCU entries like “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness,” “Thor: Love and Thunder” and “Spider-Man: No Way Home” each fell back to Earth by dropping roughly 67% after their massive debuts.
Box Office: ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Rules With $67.3 Million, ‘She Said’ Flops With $2.2 Million Debut
Disney’s comic book sequel “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” extended its reign at the domestic box office. In its second weekend of release, the 30th installment in the Marvel Cin…
variety.com
It should be noted that Spider-Man made almost $2B after that supposedly disastrous drop-off.
The second offshore weekend was good for $69.8M in 50 material markets. That’s a 49% drop from opening which is better than the majority of other MCU titles for the same suite of markets, including Thor: Love and Thunder and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (both -56%) as well as Spider-Man: No Way Home (-60%).
‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Closes In On $550M WW – International Box Office
Refresh for latest…: In its sophomore frame, Disney/Marvel’s Black Panther: Wakanda Forever sent its worldwide cume well past the $500M mark, with an estimated $546.3M through Sunday. The sp…
deadline.com
The international drop-off was much less than domestic. But don't expect @MickeyMouse10 to quote that number (if he even dares to actually quote a real number and not a false one again).
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever‘s second weekend is coming in lower than its projected $70M+ with $67.3M, -63%. That’s not necessarily something to get worried about, however, as sources keep telling me this pic’s running time is what’s slowing it down a bit. At the same time, that second weekend is slightly ahead of Black Adam‘s $67M opening weekend. On the bright side, it’s Thanksgiving week, and if people aren’t seeing Wakanda Forever this weekend, then they’re making an appointment to see it sometime this week, hands down. Furthermore, there was always bound to be a steep drop in the Friday-to-Friday coming off the Veterans Day holiday and previews a week ago, that number being -79% for $17.9M Friday. Even though the running total for Wakanda Forever at $288M today will be 2% behind Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness at the same point in time, let’s see where the Ryan Coogler-directed stands by the end of next Sunday.
‘Wakanda Forever’ Posts $67M Second Weekend; ‘The Menu’ Rises Over ‘Chosen’; No Noise For ‘She Said’ – Sunday Box Office Update
SUNDAY WRITETHRU after Saturday Update: Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’s second weekend is coming in lower than its projected $70M+ with $67.3M, -63%. That’s not necessarily something t…
deadline.com
This is what trade journals are saying. Not naive Disney fans.
TalkingHead
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But that was after Spider-man had the biggest opening weekend of all time, right? There was a level of enthusiasm and a novelty element for that title that doesn’t seem to exist here. It’ll get a bounce from Thanksgiving, but still…
The bolded sentence is the more salient point.
TP2000
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To be fair to hard data and statistics, Wakanda Forever did have a larger than expected drop this second weekend. It dropped 63% for a $67 Million weekend, which was below industry estimates of a $70+ Million weekend. This weekend's 63% drop was much larger than the first film in 2018 with a 45% second weekend drop. While Wakanda Forever is a financial success, "the film will fall considerably short of its predecessor." according to Hollywood business industry watchers.
That said, Wakanda Forever remains the undisputed box office king at the start of the Thanksgiving holiday week. (In my day, we only got two days off for Thanksgiving!? Lazy kids nowadays...)
Wakanda Forever has basically no competition in its segment until Avatar opens a month from now. Surprisingly, the third highest grossing movie of this weekend was a new installment in a little Indie film series about Jesus called The Chosen. I'd never heard of The Chosen before (I was asked to leave the family's longtime Lutheran church decades ago over my "sinful chosen lifestyle" after being outed by a nosy church lady and I never went back, so aside from watching Charlton Heston as Moses every Easter, I'm out of the loop on religious films
), but I guess The Chosen series is a big thing? It beat Universal's She Said handily, and She Said had a $32 Million budget and lots of industry buzz. Oops!Hollywood probably hates it when Americans don't go see the movies they are supposed to.
Jedijax719
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FTR, No Way Home had a "disastrous" (not really) second weekend because its second Friday was Christmas Eve.
I suspect BP2's weekends and weekdays to look something like this (give or take a couple million here and there).
11/25 $50 m (+$42 m Thanksgiving week)=$380 m
12/2 $23 m (+$12m)=$415m
12/9 $14m (+$7m)=$436m
12/16 $7m (+$4m)=$447m (Avatar 2 comes out)
12/23 $3.5m(+$4.5m)=$455m (1st holiday week, some off during week, Christmas Eve Saturday)
12/30 $3m(+$5m)=$463m (everyone off, New Years Eve Saturday)
1/6 $1.8m(+$1.7m)=$466.5m
1/13 $1.0m(+$0.5m)=$468m (MLK weekend)
1/20 $0.6m(+$0.5m)=$469.1m
1/27 $0.3m(+0.2m)=$469.6m (comes out on D+)
Finishes somewhere between $470-$475 m domestic.
I suspect BP2's weekends and weekdays to look something like this (give or take a couple million here and there).
11/25 $50 m (+$42 m Thanksgiving week)=$380 m
12/2 $23 m (+$12m)=$415m
12/9 $14m (+$7m)=$436m
12/16 $7m (+$4m)=$447m (Avatar 2 comes out)
12/23 $3.5m(+$4.5m)=$455m (1st holiday week, some off during week, Christmas Eve Saturday)
12/30 $3m(+$5m)=$463m (everyone off, New Years Eve Saturday)
1/6 $1.8m(+$1.7m)=$466.5m
1/13 $1.0m(+$0.5m)=$468m (MLK weekend)
1/20 $0.6m(+$0.5m)=$469.1m
1/27 $0.3m(+0.2m)=$469.6m (comes out on D+)
Finishes somewhere between $470-$475 m domestic.