Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

LSLS

LSLS

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MisterPenguin said:
A CinemaScore rating of "A" is historically associated with a movie making 3.6 times it's opening weekend. That'll be a final $1.2 Billion Box Office. That's about a $450M net profit.
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Eh, it's quite a different world now though. That said, its off to a better start than I thought it would be. Should be interesting to see if it has a big second weekend as well. Personally I'll wait for D+ (if that), but it looks like this could do very well, especially considering the hand they were dealt.
 
Jedijax719

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Prince-1 said:
Well BP2 did pretty good with the 2nd biggest opening of the year.

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'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever' becomes second-highest debut of 2022

'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever' is the second-highest box office debut of 2022.
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It's OW from the first one is the same as The Last Jedi from The Force Awakens. However, the obstacles are reversed, which will benefit BP2.

Both sequels were coming off of VERY popular and acclaimed predecessors. The Last Jedi had no obstacles at all coming in. However, despite high critics reviews, the WOM quickly became negative. I'm not getting into why, but let's just say that the issues it had came AFTER its release. So it lost a lot of steam compared to the first and didn't even have a 3.0 multiplier from OW.

BP2, on the other hand was reversed. It also followed a highly acclaimed film. However, the passing of Chadwick, controversies around whether to recast him as well as Leticia Wright drama created the obstacles BEFORE its release. Then it came out. Audiences have LOVED it. So let's look at the opening weekend numbers.

Both openings dropped about 10-12% (we'll have to see what BP2's actual numbers end up being). But here's the difference. The Last Jedi has a preview number of $45 million. It's overall opening weekend was 4.9X that number. And THAT is with the Christmas holiday beginning the following week for many. BP2's preview numbers were $28 million. It's OW was 6.5 the preview numbers. Sure we had Veterans Day, but that's not really a holiday for most people.

Let's also look at a comparison between BP2 and Strange2 (DSMoM). BP2 had a lower preview number but a bigger multiplier. DSMoM had 3 things that bolstered its preview numbers and OW. (1) It came off the heels of No Way Home. (2) It promised a follow up to Wandavision. (3) There were endless rumors/spoilers about cameos that people thought would be along the lines of Garfield and McGuire. What happened? (1) It had nothing really to do with NWH. (2) What they did with Wanda did not sit well with many. (3) the cameos were nothing and, quite honestly, kinda stupid and insulting.

I expect BP2 to have pretty good legs and should end up crossing $500 million domestic. In the end, it should end up with a decrease similar to Age of Ultron and The Last Jedi. However, it will end up much more respected.
 
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celluloid

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That movie was long and dwelled on the real world sad(I guess how could you not?) just a bit too much. A nice tribute to a liked character and actor.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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The all audience score is what gets me. In this day and age of misogyny and racism and the ability to review bomb the NON-verified reviews, an 85% is really good! Of course the 95% is what people see, but that 85% all audience speaks volumes. It's not the best, but considering the current nature of social media, it's pretty good.
 
Californian Elitist

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StarWarsGirl said:
Bawled at the beginning. Regretted not bringing napkins in. Then cried at the end. Made my brother sit through the credits because I still had tears streaming down my face (and because it's a Marvel movie lol).
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It was the opening credits that messed me up! I actually brought Kleenex, so I came prepared lol. That mid credits scene also got me good.

I’m looking forward to seeing it again.
 
StarWarsGirl

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Californian Elitist said:
It was the opening credits that messed me up! I actually brought Kleenex, so I came prepared lol. That mid credits scene also got me good.

I’m looking forward to seeing it again.
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I thought to myself, "Well, yeah he died, so of course they are going to kill off his character. I'll be fine; I'm expecting it!"

I was not fine, lol.

I'll probably wait til it's on D+ to watch it again, but I enjoyed it immensely.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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LSLS said:
Oh true, didn't even think about that. I was more thinking about how quickly they roll over into D+ right now.
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Tru dat too. The really big $1B plus B.O. is usually from people going multiple times. Knowing it will be on streaming in two months rather than eight months will change that dynamic.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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MisterPenguin said:
A CinemaScore rating of "A" is historically associated with a movie making 3.6 times it's opening weekend. That'll be a final $1.2 Billion Box Office. That's about a $450M net profit.
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Oops. That's a net profit of $225M since it's shared with the theaters (as a rule of thumb).
 
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DKampy

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Jedijax719 said:
It's OW from the first one is the same as The Last Jedi from The Force Awakens. However, the obstacles are reversed, which will benefit BP2.

Both sequels were coming off of VERY popular and acclaimed predecessors. The Last Jedi had no obstacles at all coming in. However, despite high critics reviews, the WOM quickly became negative. I'm not getting into why, but let's just say that the issues it had came AFTER its release. So it lost a lot of steam compared to the first and didn't even have a 3.0 multiplier from OW.

BP2, on the other hand was reversed. It also followed a highly acclaimed film. However, the passing of Chadwick, controversies around whether to recast him as well as Leticia Wright drama created the obstacles BEFORE its release. Then it came out. Audiences have LOVED it. So let's look at the opening weekend numbers.

Both openings dropped about 10-12% (we'll have to see what BP2's actual numbers end up being). But here's the difference. The Last Jedi has a preview number of $45 million. It's overall opening weekend was 4.9X that number. And THAT is with the Christmas holiday beginning the following week for many. BP2's preview numbers were $28 million. It's OW was 6.5 the preview numbers. Sure we had Veterans Day, but that's not really a holiday for most people.

Let's also look at a comparison between BP2 and Strange2 (DSMoM). BP2 had a lower preview number but a bigger multiplier. DSMoM had 3 things that bolstered its preview numbers and OW. (1) It came off the heels of No Way Home. (2) It promised a follow up to Wandavision. (3) There were endless rumors/spoilers about cameos that people thought would be along the lines of Garfield and McGuire. What happened? (1) It had nothing really to do with NWH. (2) What they did with Wanda did not sit well with many. (3) the cameos were nothing and, quite honestly, kinda stupid and insulting.

I expect BP2 to have pretty good legs and should end up crossing $500 million domestic. In the end, it should end up with a decrease similar to Age of Ultron and The Last Jedi. However, it will end up much more respected.
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Agreed with most of this…I believe at the time Strange 2 was more anticipated than panther 2 due to rumored multiverse possibilities… when that didn’t happen disappointment set in.. although I liked it more than most people, but I saw it as a Sam Rami movie

I feel Wakanda is more well liked excluding the typical “Anti-Woke” crowd
 
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