Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Guardians 2 got an A? Yuck! It's one of my least favorites.

This was a great movie! Sure, it was a little disjointed in spots, mostly transitions. The story was great. Any editing things I fully attribute to the truncated post-production period it had. Letitia was PHENOMENAL!!! But great move! Not sure exactly where I'd place in my favorites but it's definitely between 4 and 7 on my list. I have to decide whether I like it more than Infinity War, Shang Chi, and Avengers (5, 6, and 7 for me).
 
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Disney Analyst

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Box office update:

deadline.com

‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Conquers November Box Office Opening Record With $181M – Monday Update

Box Office: ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Opens to $180M
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SATURDAY AM: Refresh for more analysis and chart What we know for certain is that Disney and Marvel Studios’ Black Panther: Wakanda Foreverposted the 10th-highest opening day ever at $84M. Today is a swing factor in regards to how high or low this 2-hour-and-41-minute running MCU title plays.

Opening weekend range is between $175M-$185M now. But some rivals believe that the Ryan Coogler-directed movie could soar beyond $190M. What’s making this one hard to predict for many? Veterans Day falling on a Friday. You don’t know how much of that big first day is driven by the movie or the amount of kids off from school, which combined was 83% between K-12 and college. The last time Veterans Day fell on a Friday was 2016. CinemaScore is an A, versus Black Panther‘s A+.

Backing out previews, Friday made $56M, which is above what Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness did on its first Friday without previews, $54.7M. If today plays even with yesterday, then Wakanda Forever lands at $179M. If Wakanda Forever plays like Spider-Man: No Way Home between its Friday (sans previews) and Saturday, it will wind up at $181.8M, and if it emulates a gross pattern like Doctor Strange 2 between a pure Friday and Saturday (+6%), then it will stand at $184.6M for the weekend (all Sundays here are factored on a -30% decline from Saturday). Note the weekend gross pattern for the first Black Panther is out the window as a comp, as that played out over a 4-day Presidents Day holiday weekend, with dips registering -13% on Saturday vs. Friday, and -9% on Sunday vs. Saturday.

Imax and PLFs are repping close to 35% of the pic’s ticket sales. I hear Wakanda Forever will post the biggest opening weekend for Imax for November, which has stood since Hunger Games: Catching Fire. The Imax weekend numbers here for the Coogler film beat previous Bonds and Marvel movies by leaps and bounds. Anecdotally, it was very hard to get a good seat at the Porter Ranch AMC north of LA in the Dolby auditorium yesterday and today, which underscores, as some have told me, the need for more premium cinema formats when we have tentpole weekends such as this.
Audience exits are still amazing for Wakanda Forever, with 93% on Screen Engine/Comscore’s PostTrak, and an 85% definite recommend with kids under 12, giving it a near 100% and 72% recommend. Guy-leaning at 52%, 45% between 18-34, with 37% over 35. Very diverse film at 44% Black leading, 21% Hispanic and Latino, 20% Caucasian, and 15% Asian/other.
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How good is Wakanda Forever for the economy? The pic is pushing the entire weekend box office to do around $219M in ticket sales, +261% from last weekend’s doldrums of $60.8M and +100% from the same weekend a year ago (weekend 45) which is when Disney/Marvel debuted Eternals. Drilling down on Friday, four theaters made north of $200K, ten were over $150K, 65 were over $100K and close to 460 were north of $50K, which is excellent.
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Disney Irish

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Disney Analyst said:
Box office update:

deadline.com

‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Conquers November Box Office Opening Record With $181M – Monday Update

Box Office: ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Opens to $180M
deadline.com
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What's funny is they don't even mention that WF did better on its opening Friday than the first BP, $84M versus $75.9M respectively.

So it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the weekend plays out, but I still think they're low balling their predictions.
 
Ghost93

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Disney Irish said:
What's funny is they don't even mention that WF did better on its opening Friday than the first BP, $84M versus $75.9M respectively.

So it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the weekend plays out, but I still think they're low balling their predictions.
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It's not unusual for Disney to intentionally lowball predictions so they can get headlines about how a movie "exceeded" expectations.
 
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celluloid

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I think it will be more telling what kinds of legs it has vs if it is front loaded. Clearly a success. The differences is will it surpass other big Marvel sequels once other big releases are there to actually complete with it vs the only major release from a major property and major pushed studio with real world post mortem around it.
 
Disney Irish

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Ghost93 said:
It's not unusual for Disney to intentionally lowball predictions so they can get headlines about how a movie "exceeded" expectations.
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Are the Deadline reported predictions coming from Disney or another source, I expect another source? Because Variety has it higher at $185-200M, which are more in-line with what I'm predicting. If they were all reporting the same numbers then I would assume they were coming from Disney.
 
BrianLo

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Ghost93 said:
Yeah thematically, it would have made more sense for the Eternals to realize that they are pawns of the Celestial just like the Deviants. They could have formed a truce realizing they have more in common with each other than they realized.
I would have also liked Eternals to be about 30 minutes longer with more time spent in the ancient past establishing their relationships.
The biggest issue I have with the film is I feel like we knew many of the characters only in broad strokes and were told — not shown — how much they care for each other. I know there are a lot of deleted scenes but I imagine Marvel figured most audiences wouldn't want a 3-hour movie.
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Ya MisterPenguins Chart because of the coloring really makes it stand out like a turd. Eternals I thought was pretty enjoyable, but you’d think it was like infinitely the worst movie Marvel has ever produced based on the reaction.

It would have been better served as a D+ miniseries event with an extra 30-60 minute of content. But they had Angelina Jolie stars in their eyes.
 
BrianLo

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DKampy said:
Have you seen the movie yet or are you a bot
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The next move trolls make (because they realize they have limited credibility to scream in the wind when everyone but them has actually seen the movie)… is to lie that they saw it. Or lead with how someone forced them or paid for them to maintain the moral high ground. But usually lie that they saw it.

Or I guess slink away.

I’m waiting with bated breath.
 
MisterPenguin

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MickeyMouse10 said:
It's amazing how loyal you guys are to Disney. When most of Phase 4 has been horrible.
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Ad hominem.

Because our opinion doesn't match yours, you have to come up with some reason why that's the case. And so you're basically accusing us of blind loyalty as the only possible reason why we don't hate the things you hate.

It's a fallacy.

You expressed your opinion, there is no need to disparage ours. Doing so over and over again is troll-bait. And it's another example of you breaking the Terms of Service with non-constructive posts.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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$180 million opening weekend

BUT Disney ALWAYS underestimates Sundays for big blockbusters of this caliber. It could rise by $5 when all the "hanging chads" are counted, so to speak (for those who remember what hanging chads are lol-no it's not an "alpha" male hanging out at movie theatrers LOL).
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Jedijax719 said:
$180 million opening weekend

BUT Disney ALWAYS underestimates Sundays for big blockbusters of this caliber. It could rise by $5 when all the "hanging chads" are counted, so to speak
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It's less than the original ($202 million 3-day), but about the same as Doctor Strange 2 from earlier this year ($187 million).
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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TalkingHead said:
Which is what studio folks will be focused on. Strange 1 wasn’t a phenomenon like Black Panther was, and yet both sequels performed similarly in their opened weekends. The drop for next weekend will be very telling.
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I can’t imagine Disneys going to be upset about a $180 million opening weekend for a sequel, especially with D+ in the mix.

I’m sure every company wishes for better results but BPWF is doing what it’s forecast to do, Disney should be pleased with that.

I agree that the next couple weeks will ultimately decide it’s box office success though.
 

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