Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Getting too fringe/off the main stream already. When you don’t have a long established character to slot in, the margins for error are vastly reduced.
We’ll see it go…talk of how great “phase 6” is gonna be is silly. Too much.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Per the Hasbro toy per-order Atlantis is officially out.

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[doctornick]

Per the Hasbro toy per-order Atlantis is officially out.

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If they do call it Talican, I’m sure they’ll make some reference like someone saying “an underwater city like Atlantis? “We’ve been known by many names including Atlantis”

 

[Disney Irish]

Per the Hasbro toy per-order Atlantis is officially out.

Marvel Legends Series Namor

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If they do call it Talican, I’m sure they’ll make some reference like someone saying “an underwater city like Atlantis? “We’ve been known by many names including Atlantis”

If this ends up being true I'm not surprised given DC already used it in a recent film. And I do like the idea of the "We've been called by many names" line, it differentiates them from Aquaman which would be in the public consciousness.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's hard to say. I'm no Namor scholar, but I seem to recall him having a whole fantastic 4 plot where he teamed up with Doom to fight the F4. So maybe he stays a villain through F4 and then joins the avengers at the end of that?

I predict (based on nothing other than Namor also being a hero in the comics) that Namor will be set up by someone else to fight Wakanda and will realize as such and join them.

I think he'll end up being an anti-hero, which has always been his mode in the comics anyways. So I think he'll end up reluctantly joining the Avengers.

 

[Disney Irish]

For a while there were all sorts of galactic rumors as well, weren't there?

I still think Galactus is coming, but just maybe not until after Phase 6.

 

[TalkingHead]

Relevant quote:

By pulling in 172 million views in its first 24 hours, “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” becomes one of the top trailer launches for a standalone Marvel movie following titles like the “Spider-Man: No Way Home” teaser (the biggest ever with 355.5 million views) and the “Thor: Love and Thunder” teaser (209 million views).

That context sorta makes the headline sound misleading. I’m confident it’ll do better business than Thor but just goes to show that trailer views are a dubious metric for predicting box office.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Per the Hasbro toy per-order Atlantis is officially out.

Marvel Legends Series Namor

The ruler of Talokan, an ancient civilization hidden in the depths of the ocean, Namor will stop at nothing to protect his people. With over 80 years of entertainment history, Marvel has become a cornerstone of fan collections around the world. With the Marvel Legends Series, fan favorite Marvel...

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Did hasbro ever make those big Star Wars toys they polled a few years ago?

 

[Disney Analyst]

Event of the year coming.

 

[UNCgolf]

Event of the year coming.

While I do think it will be a huge success (and outperform Thor), the trailer didn't even get as many views as the Thor: Love and Thunder trailer, so that tweet didn't really make the argument it thought it was making.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Tems’ cover of “No Woman No Cry” is available for download, if anyone’s interested.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While I do think it will be a huge success (and outperform Thor), the trailer didn't even get as many views as the Thor: Love and Thunder trailer, so that tweet didn't really make the argument it thought it was making.

Yep…and how’s Thor doing?

Wakanda will do fine…but I bet it doesn’t get up there…with the best of the best for 2022

 

[DCBaker]

While I do think it will be a huge success (and outperform Thor), the trailer didn't even get as many views as the Thor: Love and Thunder trailer, so that tweet didn't really make the argument it thought it was making.

The author of the tweet, who also co-wrote the article the tweet links to, covers this -

"By pulling in 172 million views in its first 24 hours, “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” becomes one of the top trailer launches for a standalone Marvel movie following titles like the “Spider-Man: No Way Home” teaser (the biggest ever with 355.5 million views) and the “Thor: Love and Thunder” teaser (209 million views). Four “Avengers” trailers also pulled in bigger numbers: “Avengers: Endgame” teaser (289 million), “Avengers: Endgame” final trailer (268 million), “Avengers: Infinity War” teaser (230 million) and “Avengers: Infinity War” final trailer (179 million).

It should be noted that unlike many of these aforementioned Marvel movies, the “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” teaser launched on a Saturday night at around 9:20pm ET. That’s not exactly the most desired time slot for a trailer debut, as most trailers release weekday mornings and take advantage of the workday re-watch factor."

 

[UNCgolf]

The author of the tweet, who also co-wrote the article the tweet links to, covers this -

"By pulling in 172 million views in its first 24 hours, “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” becomes one of the top trailer launches for a standalone Marvel movie following titles like the “Spider-Man: No Way Home” teaser (the biggest ever with 355.5 million views) and the “Thor: Love and Thunder” teaser (209 million views). Four “Avengers” trailers also pulled in bigger numbers: “Avengers: Endgame” teaser (289 million), “Avengers: Endgame” final trailer (268 million), “Avengers: Infinity War” teaser (230 million) and “Avengers: Infinity War” final trailer (179 million).

It should be noted that unlike many of these aforementioned Marvel movies, the “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” teaser launched on a Saturday night at around 9:20pm ET. That’s not exactly the most desired time slot for a trailer debut, as most trailers release weekday mornings and take advantage of the workday re-watch factor."

It's one of a million reasons Twitter is a terrible place for information; there's no room for nuance or explanation. Most people would never click on the article to get all the additional context, which works both ways. I didn't know it released at 9:20 PM!

 

[Disney Irish]

Yep…and how’s Thor doing?

Wakanda will do fine…but I bet it doesn’t get up there…with the best of the best for 2022

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Sounds like you have an axe to grind here.

I mean you've only posted like 10x in this thread that you think it won't be on the same level as Maverick. Nobody is trying to take away the success of Maverick.

You know it is possible for people to actually like more than one movie during a release year my friend.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Maybe someone can create a thread just for Top Gun? So we don’t have to use this dedicated Black Panther thread to talk about it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Mabel Cadena, who plays Namora, is also Mexican, along with Tenoch Huerta. I love the creative choice to have Namor be Mayan. I look forward to seeing more Latino/Latina actors in this movie and beyond.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sounds like you have an axe to grind here.

I mean you've only posted like 10x in this thread that you think it won't be on the same level as Maverick. Nobody is trying to take away the success of Maverick.

You know it is possible for people to actually like more than one movie during a release year my friend.

Kinda like predicting that every single character in the depths of marvel comics - that few ever saw - is gonna be a billion hit in phase 6,7,314, etc.

Kinda a glass house when you look at your posts on all the marvel threads. “G out, homie!”

But to your lecture (point…I guess)…wakanda will do very well…but I think if you look at the MCU history, it’s honestly hard to make huge BO prognostications.

But we shall see.

 

[Disney Irish]

Kinda like predicting that every single character in the depths of marvel comics - that few ever saw - is gonna be a billion hit in phase 6,7,314, etc.

Kinda a glass house when you look at your posts on all the marvel threads. “G out, homie!”

But to your lecture (point…I guess)…wakanda will do very well…but I think if you look at the MCU history, it’s honestly hard to make huge BO prognostications.

But we shall see.

Why is it a bad thing to be excited and think that a movie will do well, or be the event of the year? If someone wants to predict BO numbers, like I did, so what? Could they be wrong, absolutely, but who is it hurting by making the prediction in the first place?

Also why can't there be discussions about plot points, character arcs, different potential characters to be used within a film, etc? Isn't that the whole point of these threads, to discuss every aspect of the movie? These threads would be very boring if there was none of those discussions.

 

[Ghost93]

Mabel Cadena, who plays Namora, is also Mexican, along with Tenoch Huerta. I love the creative choice to have Namor be Mayan. I look forward to seeing more Latino/Latina actors in this movie and beyond.

In addition to representation, it's a good way to distinguish Namor from Aquaman.