DisneySaint
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You won't get a guest assistance pass for ADHD; you'll just be told to use the Fastpass system.
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Big changes coming to FASTPASS in March
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You won't get a guest assistance pass for ADHD; you'll just be told to use the Fastpass system.
draybook
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While I disagree with the mans approach, I would have let him go ahead of me. If he's disabled and that stall was the one that he needed then I would let him go. Then again I'm just raised to be courteous enough to hold my #1 or #2 long enough for a disabled person to go ahead and use the one stall designed with them in mind.
flynnibus
Premium Member
You will at DLR.. dunno about WDW. FP isn't on all attractions so I doubt they would dismiss someone that way.
PhilharMagician
Well-Known Member
My daughter has ADHD too, but these are perfect times for me and my wife to help and teach her how to deal with her symptoms. There are people that really need those passes and the fact of ADHD is not one of them. It is very disturbing to me that people feel that one person does it then I should be able too.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
This is how the Guest Assistance Pass works at Universal on waits over 30 minutes.
My understanding has been that with a Doctor's note, Disney will give you a Guest Assistance Card for ADHD. We have been getting one for years for my autistic brother without a doctor's note, but it's pretty clear within 30 seconds that my brother is autistic. ADHD is less apparent, so to be on the safe side, I'd recommend a Doctor's note.
Millionaire2K
Active Member
I was leaving as he was coming it yelling. He was mentally disabled. So he could have used any stall! I can not make 12 people move for one guy AND kick out the person that was useing the stall.
Tom
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I_heart_Tigger
Well-Known Member
Sorry, I realize this is off topic but I have to respectfully disagree with you about the disabled stall. If there are 10 regular stalls in the bathroom and 1 disabled stall...as soon as the disabled stall is free the person that requires that stall should get to use it, even if they are not next in line.
Think of it this way - if you are next in line you have a 10 out of 11 chance at getting a free stall - they have only a 1 out of 11 chance of getting a free stall. If they are first in line but all of the other stalls empty first they have to allow 10 people behind them to go ahead while they wait for the disabled stall so why should they not be able to move ahead once the one stall they can use becomes available?
The odds are severly stacked against them and they should not be forced to wait 10 times longer than everyone else in line to use the washroom.
KingdomofDreams
Well-Known Member
I agree with the previous posts. While I'm sure we're all sympathetic to the needs and challenges of individuals dealing with their various disabilities, that doesn't mean they can't be accommodated in a more reasonable manner.
Being in a wheelchair does not mean you can't wait in line just like everyone else. Find a way to "mark" their proper place in the queue (by having other members of their party enter the line or some other means) and when their time comes up, let them on. I just wish ride designers could come up with ways for them to board the rides like HM, SSE etc. without stopping the entire ride, thereby taking away from the experience for everyone else.
As far as ADD or ADHD, my opinion is that no exception should be made at all, not even with a Dr's note.
There are some individuals who are obviously seriously disabled, especially children, and for them clearly there should be some reasonable accommodation made, but there are many, many individuals every day who are taking advantage.
I'm curious about the guy yelling because he couldn't get the handicap stall. Was this guy in a wheelchair? Because you didn't really make that clear. Obviously, the handicap stall is for individuals who are in wheelchairs which won't fit in regular stalls. If he wasn't in a wheelchair, he didn't need it. If he was, then yes, when it next became available, I would have let him use it. I use the handicap stall if no others are available, but only if there is no one there that would need it at that moment.
Being in a wheelchair does not mean you can't wait in line just like everyone else. Find a way to "mark" their proper place in the queue (by having other members of their party enter the line or some other means) and when their time comes up, let them on. I just wish ride designers could come up with ways for them to board the rides like HM, SSE etc. without stopping the entire ride, thereby taking away from the experience for everyone else.
As far as ADD or ADHD, my opinion is that no exception should be made at all, not even with a Dr's note.
There are some individuals who are obviously seriously disabled, especially children, and for them clearly there should be some reasonable accommodation made, but there are many, many individuals every day who are taking advantage.
I'm curious about the guy yelling because he couldn't get the handicap stall. Was this guy in a wheelchair? Because you didn't really make that clear. Obviously, the handicap stall is for individuals who are in wheelchairs which won't fit in regular stalls. If he wasn't in a wheelchair, he didn't need it. If he was, then yes, when it next became available, I would have let him use it. I use the handicap stall if no others are available, but only if there is no one there that would need it at that moment.
hebspanteach
New Member
New fast pass rule
Has anyone been there over the last couple of days and experienced the new change? How has it affected wait times?
Has anyone been there over the last couple of days and experienced the new change? How has it affected wait times?
Millionaire2K
Active Member
Sorry for not making it clear. This guest was just standing at the back of the line complaining.
thelookingglass
Well-Known Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at DLR, I believe you now need some sort of documentation to get a guest assistance card, and even then its rare and not every broken toe is treated as essentially an unlimited Fastpass.
At WDW, however, basically anyone who feels like being a dishonorable piece of scum can obtain a pass.
NOTE!!!: I am not discrediting or mocking those who legitimately need a pass, and I realize that "you can't always tell", but, lets be real here, people are terrible and self-centered, and people scam.
At WDW, however, basically anyone who feels like being a dishonorable piece of scum can obtain a pass.
NOTE!!!: I am not discrediting or mocking those who legitimately need a pass, and I realize that "you can't always tell", but, lets be real here, people are terrible and self-centered, and people scam.
Disneydreamer23
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I defiantly need to weigh in here I seen a couple FAKE injury to get into the rides ... I was there Dec 2010 with my fiance now hussy mom and dad ,my husband fell down in the bathroom in Holllywood studios because some one spilled pop all over the floor and he slipped and ended up breaking his ankle. Had to take him to er and every thing so the next day we had to get him a wheel chair they gave us an electric one and for free since they felt bad i guess for it happening at the Park. So we were in line for HM and the CM says oh come through the back way and they took us and another young couple she ends up TELLING me her and her boy friend faked an injury earlier that day to get on rides for no wait and she proceeded to tell me they do it at every park and switch so they would say he fell next day she fell etc. So what did i Do being classy from Chicago? I rated on her bahahaha to the CM at HM i dont know what happened but it felt good!
thelookingglass
Well-Known Member
...BECAUSE fake handicapped people are another factor in why the Fastpass line is a problem.
jencor
Active Member
i know that back in 2009 while at SM we received a hand written ticket and had to wait 40 minutes to get on (the wait time on standby). We kind of hung around and when we got on- the wait time was now just 15 minutes. The problem we had was that when you get up to the ride, they have a handicap entrance and there were 3 groups in front of us and they only let them on about every 10 to 15 minutes. We waited another 40 minutes to get on while hundreds passed by and were getting on. If we did not have a handicap, we probably could of done the ride like 2 or maybe 3 times. To watch so many get on the ride while we waited was quite frustrating. I am not sure why the long wait except that i think they just had one guy helping the handicap and he would disappear with the wheel chair and probably waited for the rider and then come back for the next.
Tom
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This depth of discussion changes the original topic, and is just going to result in this thread being closed.
This issue has been exhausted, and never evolves well.
thelookingglass
Well-Known Member
I understand that, its just frustrating that, while it appears Disney is trying to tackle the "fastpass monster" they created, just somewhat attempting to limit people to go within their window is only the tip of the iceberg, especially if there will be new Xpass factors thrown in. The policies for handing out GACs should be totally revised.
As user KingdomofDreams discussed a few posts above, "I can't wait in long lines" should not equal "unlimited Fastpass yay!!!" but rather something more along the lines of what is still currently done at Space Mountain - "okay, the line is 45 minutes. Return at (45 minutes from that time) to enter."
The fact that this issue is brought up frequently shows that it is an ongoing and ever-growing problem, and TDO needs to grow a backbone and stop it.
As user KingdomofDreams discussed a few posts above, "I can't wait in long lines" should not equal "unlimited Fastpass yay!!!" but rather something more along the lines of what is still currently done at Space Mountain - "okay, the line is 45 minutes. Return at (45 minutes from that time) to enter."
The fact that this issue is brought up frequently shows that it is an ongoing and ever-growing problem, and TDO needs to grow a backbone and stop it.
wilkeliza
Well-Known Member
Sorry I wasn't trying to start a controversy. I was just informing someone who said now that they are enforcing the fastpass return window rules they were going to go get the card offered to guests with non-visual disabilities that that card is not an instant skip the line at every ride.
Back to regular fastpasses. Who has been in the world since the start and what has been the follow through rate with the new rules? Are some CMs more lenient than others or is the standard really standard?
Rasvar
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I was in the park on Wednesday but had no reason to "test" the system. I would be curious if the time that Toy Story mania and Soarin run out of fastpass begins to slip to later in the day.