News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

James Alucobond

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Carpeted walls are such a part of WDW's and specifically EPCOT's DNA. Would love to know the history and rationale behind the design choice. There's just such a sense of comfort in the spaces where it's used, like a warm blanket but on a much grander scale.
It was just a thing that they sometimes did in the 70s and 80s. It's not some idea they came up with exclusively for EPCOT. It's just never been updated. As for the rationale, not sure. Maybe sound dampening?
 

Virtual Toad

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It was just a thing that they sometimes did in the 70s and 80s. It's not some idea they came up with exclusively for EPCOT. It's just never been updated. As for the rationale, not sure. Maybe sound dampening?
Sound dampening sounds about right. I always liked the aesthetic. Maybe it's a product of my age and the era I grew up in but I think it makes for a more welcoming environment than the hard surfaces and sterile modern look. Did Dreamflight/If You Had Wings also use carpeted walls in the queue? Comparing it to the beat up look the painted walls in the Buzz queue have now, it seems as if durability may have also been a rationale. Agree it's definitely a product of a certain era.
 

lazyboy97o

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Soft materials on walls is actually a very old tradition. Think tapestries, drapes and curtains. They provided a variety of benefits from different thermal comfort functions to acoustics to just feeling more cozy than hard and rough materials. The acoustics of contemporary environments is a noticeable problem. The move away from a variety of softer materials, from wall coverings to things like table cloths, has made spaces louder. Fine dining establishments have found this out the hard way as their atmosphere suddenly goes from quiet to raucous with a remodel.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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What I really want to know is why on earth they painted the dirt and grime on the monorail beam? I get it’s hard to keep clean in real life but if you’re painting it for a photo backdrop, paint it looking nice and pristine!
🤔 wow! Thank's for pointing that out. Didn't they clean the beams at Epcot I remember over by imagination pavilion if the front looks like that then they want you to have a very realistic capture. BTW this area you can take the real picture from the area right there! Unless you want no people.. 🤷‍♂️
 

Figments Friend

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Carpeted walls are such a part of WDW's and specifically EPCOT's DNA. Would love to know the history and rationale behind the design choice. There's just such a sense of comfort in the spaces where it's used, like a warm blanket but on a much grander scale.

It likely has to do with dampening the harsh sounds that a crowded waiting area would produce if the walls were bare.
Much like a room with hard walls, and no furnishings to soak up the acoustic noise.

Classic WED was clever to not only do this, but also take the extra step and create elaborate works of art with said carpeting on said walls.
The stunningly beautiful example thankfully still at The Land is one of the best, and hasn’t aged a day in my opinion.

I mean, just LOOK at this beauty!
Never remove this, Disney.

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AdventureHasAName

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What I really want to know is why on earth they painted the dirt and grime on the monorail beam? I get it’s hard to keep clean in real life but if you’re painting it for a photo backdrop, paint it looking nice and pristine!
This is a fascinating observation. I almost wonder if they "painted" it with AI and AI said to itself "well, it's always dirty in the all the photos, so I guess I'm supposed to make it dirty."
 

Epcot82Guy

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I might offer the same back.

Yes. It's a message board where there are a lot of flared temperaments. But I was joking. (And even intentionally used the classic comedy triplet.). I'm not saying that has to be anyone's type of humor in any way. Rather it's just not that serious. I think we could all benefit from that a bit right now.
 

flyerjab

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Finally was able to see Communicore Hall yesterday. That should be renamed Chapek Hall. That was truly…something…

I know not everyone was a fan of the original plans for a festival center. I really liked that concept. It was at least a new piece of architecture that was unique, with greenery on top that would have provided new and unique views of the park.

And, yes, I know it is a flex space, but so what. “Oh, since it is a flex space it should not be themed or adorned when not being used?! Give me a break. They are using that as an excuse. Make it interesting…make it unique. That was cafeteria level theming. That is right up there with the coffee shop they put in the Boardwalk.

This was a total miss. The gardens…not a total miss but could have been much better.
 

lazyboy97o

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with greenery on top that would have provided new and unique views of the park.
Not for most people in the park.

And, yes, I know it is a flex space, but so what. “Oh, since it is a flex space it should not be themed or adorned when not being used?! Give me a break. They are using that as an excuse. Make it interesting…make it unique. That was cafeteria level theming.
What do you think the Festival Center would have been like most of the time? And having to haul everything up through elevators would have limited the extent of work, especially over time. But again, for most people it just would have been the concrete plaza below.
 

doctornick

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And, yes, I know it is a flex space, but so what. “Oh, since it is a flex space it should not be themed or adorned when not being used?! Give me a break. They are using that as an excuse. Make it interesting…make it unique. That was cafeteria level theming. That is right up there with the coffee shop they put in the Boardwalk.

That's the thing. I just don't get why they didn't at least do something interesting with the interior. You almost have to work hard to make a space that bland. Even just leaving up the "World Celebration", etc. banners from the media event would have been much better. Can't they at least find some meaningful artwork to put in the space? A small exhibit of some sort? Anything?
 

V_L_Raptor

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That's the thing. I just don't get why they didn't at least do something interesting with the interior. You almost have to work hard to make a space that bland. Even just leaving up the "World Celebration", etc. banners from the media event would have been much better. Can't they at least find some meaningful artwork to put in the space? A small exhibit of some sort? Anything?

Which... Let's offer a moment of silence for the cynicism Disney has to whomp up all that thematic frou-frou for a single media event, only to tear it all down before the plebes arrive the next morning.

It's kind of a double whammy... Not only is the space a husk, but Disney recognized it was enough of a husk to decorate it for their target marketing audience, and the target audience most definitely is not the guests paying to get in. (Natch...?!)
 

WorldExplorer

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Why does Epcot need so many flex spaces? It already has World Showplace, the Odyssey, and I'm pretty sure it already had the "Rose Walk" lawn, and it also needs CommuniCore?

I can't think of even one place in the other three parks that's bare/lightly decorated and seemingly useless because it's set aside to occasionally have something in it.

I know the park has the rotating festivals, but those seemed to get along just fine while the walls were up, even with Showplace closed.
 
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Bocabear

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even as a flex space for event rentals, why was it not designed to be beautiful...do they feel it will only be rented for events if it looks like a Marriott convention space? Anyone using that space would definitely much prefer a unique and beautifully designed space as a backdrop...not fully relying on bringing in tons of decor for every use... It is a ridiculous ugly, unimaginitive space that should have never been approved in it's current state...I would say that about the whole building thos....seriously Boo Disney. FAIL!
 

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