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News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?
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Figments Friend
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I am still to this day absolutely perplexed as to WHY they trashed this building.
Has to be one of THE most stupid decisions made in Epcot’s recent history, and that is saying a lot considering some of the many bad decisions this Park has had to suffer through.
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Disgruntled Walt
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Looks like the kind of place where it would be fun to bounce a tennis ball across the room with a friend (you know, the reason we all go to Epcot!). I wonder if anyone would notice, on their phones or asleep.View attachment 795366
Got to see this monstrosity in person…there were people sleeping, facetiming others…just like Walt wanted!
DisCOT_97
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I was thinking of getting the annual passholders together and starting some sort of scrabble club. Ya know, to liven up the place!
Virtual Toad
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Carpeted walls are such a part of WDW's and specifically EPCOT's DNA. Would love to know the history and rationale behind the design choice. There's just such a sense of comfort in the spaces where it's used, like a warm blanket but on a much grander scale.
Virtual Toad
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Agree. The destruction really is a sucker punch, not only because of what was lost but also because of the absolute inferiority of what they replaced it with.
Old EPCOT had such amazing bones. Even the triangles and tarps were okay because there was always a sense of possibility, a sense that it was all dated but workable.
What we lost most when Communicore West was destroyed was a sense of grandeur. The space itself was all about the possibilities of the future, literally a "great big beautiful tomorrow."
What replaced it is an absolute travesty, a fitting testament to our society's perverse affinity for the practices of small thinking and risk averse behavior.
Kind of the exact opposite of EPCOT's original mission statement when you think about it.
Gusey
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But we know why. They destroyed it in 2019 to make way for the multi-storey festival pavilion. When plans changed post pandemic, CommuniCore Hall became a backup plan to fill the now empty plot of land, with a smaller budget (announced 2022). Whilst CommuniCore Hall is very plain, you can see how we got to this stage
Epcot82Guy
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Very true.
Though "How?", "Why?" and "Which tool should we use to disembowel those in charge?" are all very different questions...
James Alucobond
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It was just a thing that they sometimes did in the 70s and 80s. It's not some idea they came up with exclusively for EPCOT. It's just never been updated. As for the rationale, not sure. Maybe sound dampening?
Virtual Toad
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Sound dampening sounds about right. I always liked the aesthetic. Maybe it's a product of my age and the era I grew up in but I think it makes for a more welcoming environment than the hard surfaces and sterile modern look. Did Dreamflight/If You Had Wings also use carpeted walls in the queue? Comparing it to the beat up look the painted walls in the Buzz queue have now, it seems as if durability may have also been a rationale. Agree it's definitely a product of a certain era.
lazyboy97o
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Soft materials on walls is actually a very old tradition. Think tapestries, drapes and curtains. They provided a variety of benefits from different thermal comfort functions to acoustics to just feeling more cozy than hard and rough materials. The acoustics of contemporary environments is a noticeable problem. The move away from a variety of softer materials, from wall coverings to things like table cloths, has made spaces louder. Fine dining establishments have found this out the hard way as their atmosphere suddenly goes from quiet to raucous with a remodel.
Chef idea Mickey`=
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wow! Thank's for pointing that out. Didn't they clean the beams at Epcot I remember over by imagination pavilion if the front looks like that then they want you to have a very realistic capture. BTW this area you can take the real picture from the area right there! Unless you want no people.. 
Figments Friend
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It likely has to do with dampening the harsh sounds that a crowded waiting area would produce if the walls were bare.
Much like a room with hard walls, and no furnishings to soak up the acoustic noise.
Classic WED was clever to not only do this, but also take the extra step and create elaborate works of art with said carpeting on said walls.
The stunningly beautiful example thankfully still at The Land is one of the best, and hasn’t aged a day in my opinion.
I mean, just LOOK at this beauty!
Never remove this, Disney.
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AdventureHasAName
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This is a fascinating observation. I almost wonder if they "painted" it with AI and AI said to itself "well, it's always dirty in the all the photos, so I guess I'm supposed to make it dirty."
lazyboy97o
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Or maybe it’s just a photo that’s been collaged and edited.
ChrisFL
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Yeah, that part is really bad
BasiltheBatLord
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Chill
Epcot82Guy
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I might offer the same back.
Yes. It's a message board where there are a lot of flared temperaments. But I was joking. (And even intentionally used the classic comedy triplet.). I'm not saying that has to be anyone's type of humor in any way. Rather it's just not that serious. I think we could all benefit from that a bit right now.
flyerjab
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Finally was able to see Communicore Hall yesterday. That should be renamed Chapek Hall. That was truly…something…
I know not everyone was a fan of the original plans for a festival center. I really liked that concept. It was at least a new piece of architecture that was unique, with greenery on top that would have provided new and unique views of the park.
And, yes, I know it is a flex space, but so what. “Oh, since it is a flex space it should not be themed or adorned when not being used?! Give me a break. They are using that as an excuse. Make it interesting…make it unique. That was cafeteria level theming. That is right up there with the coffee shop they put in the Boardwalk.
This was a total miss. The gardens…not a total miss but could have been much better.
I know not everyone was a fan of the original plans for a festival center. I really liked that concept. It was at least a new piece of architecture that was unique, with greenery on top that would have provided new and unique views of the park.
And, yes, I know it is a flex space, but so what. “Oh, since it is a flex space it should not be themed or adorned when not being used?! Give me a break. They are using that as an excuse. Make it interesting…make it unique. That was cafeteria level theming. That is right up there with the coffee shop they put in the Boardwalk.
This was a total miss. The gardens…not a total miss but could have been much better.
lazyboy97o
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Not for most people in the park.
What do you think the Festival Center would have been like most of the time? And having to haul everything up through elevators would have limited the extent of work, especially over time. But again, for most people it just would have been the concrete plaza below.