News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

Andrew25

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I wish I could hate Disney World as much as many forum members do around here...It'd save me some money and I wouldn't be lurking here all day either.
I can only speak about myself, but I complain about both Disney/Universal on here, but I'm not walking around the parks mumbling to myself about their issues.

The "negativity" is out of love, not hate. I'm sure there are a few that just love to be negative, but the vast majority are just voicing their displeasure towards some things.
 

Bocabear

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That's the thing though. I respect the passion, but the old days aren't coming back.

You don't have to love everything, but if you hate everything - it just might be you.
I sure don't hate everything...and I fully understand the "old Days" aren't coming back...but why should we applaud when things de-volve? Why can't we discuss changes with the community of others that also are passionate about WDW? We all have different opinions... I can still get insight from others... With everyone just saying "times Change" it doesn't give much room for a discussion...
 

osian

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That's the thing though. I respect the passion, but the old days aren't coming back.

You don't have to love everything, but if you hate everything - it just might be you.
The issue is not wishing that the old days would come back but wishing that they'd stop ruining things instead of enhancing things, and this doesn't mean hating everything nor wishing the old days would come back (except to restore what was ruined - as though ruination means progress and you can't complain about it). People who complain about people who complain...are inventing their own reasons why people complain.
 

Incomudro

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Everyone has their own opinion, but the "hub" of Epcot has never really looked good until now (including opening day). Sure, it would have been better with their original plans... but it looks nice. Doesn't justify how long it took, but I'm happy to just move along and hope Figment gets worked on soon.
I think it looks great with the exception of the planter.
I mean... The central focal point, and it is truly designed as a central focal point with the lights around it and everything - should be more.
It should be a beautiful water feature.
 

Bocabear

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That looks much better now that the sun's out...
I don't know though.... Well everything looks better on a fair day, but this still (to me) looks like a bus station, or the ticket booths at Kennedy Space Center... Maybe when they completely finish it, it will look better....
 

Mickeynerd17

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We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
 

Incomudro

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We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
The fountain and water are excellent.
Otherwise I prefer the new hub.
If only we could have both.
 

J4546

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We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
that looks good but as well but I also like the new currrent area as well
 

Epcot81Fan

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It’s almost like these defenders of these incredibly cheap, bland, and amateurish architectural designs have never been outside of Kissimmee.

Just walk through Vegas and you’ll see how amateurish and pathetically behind the curve Disney is in both architecture and design.

You can post a hundred of these photos that all make Disney look absolutely pathetic.

But, but, those are public spaces in entertainment concepts built by American public companies so that’s not a fair comparison!!! Or something!!!


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MagicHappens1971

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While I don't agree with the comparisons of Epcot to multi-billion dollar airports as I just don't think it is a sound comparison, have we failed to mention that the redo of the hub probably cost over $500M? If Guardians cost that much, I would imagine the hub redo (Connections, Creations, Communicore Hall and the actual central hub) cost probably close to that, if not more.

I think what we have is an improvement over what was there before, but overall think it could've had some more "grandeur"
 

pigglewiggle

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It’s almost like these defenders of these incredibly cheap, bland, and amateurish architectural designs have never been outside of Kissimmee.

Just walk through Vegas and you’ll see how amateurish and pathetically behind the curve Disney is in both architecture and design.

You can post a hundred of these photos that all make Disney look absolutely pathetic.

But, but, those are public spaces in entertainment concepts built by American public companies so that’s not a fair comparison!!! Or something!!!


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Those are gaudy and absolutely hideous.

Only my humble opinion of course.
 

Epcot81Fan

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Those are gaudy and absolutely hideous.

Only my humble opinion of course.
Well, here’s the good news, in Vegas, where the world’s best architects and interior designers work there are countless styles and tastes to choose from, which is of course the point, not these exact samples.

But hey, if this is absolutely remarkable to you, God bless.


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Bocabear

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We're not talking about that. The millennium hub was messy and missing trees.

THIS is what we're talking about:

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Clean, orderly pathways with plenty of green space, trees, and a kinetic water feature that functionally make sense with the surrounding architecture.

I don't understand why this design was "bad."
It is what happened next that created the "Bad"... Epcot was extremely popular and I think they wanted to open it up for for crowd control I am guessing....and they basically opened it WAY UP and paved over the green spaces, filled in the waterway and created the giant open plaza they then had to cover with the spiderwebbing of cables and shade sails.... If it had been restored to this version we would have lots of green but in a more planned modern way....Also lots of water....
 

pigglewiggle

Well-Known Member
Well, here’s the good news, in Vegas, where the world’s best architects and interior designers work there are countless styles and tastes to choose from, which is of course the point, not these exact samples.

But hey, if this is absolutely remarkable to you, God bless.


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I'm not sure if you know this, but you posted this already.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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While I don't agree with the comparisons of Epcot to multi-billion dollar airports as I just don't think it is a sound comparison, have we failed to mention that the redo of the hub probably cost over $500M? If Guardians cost that much, I would imagine the hub redo (Connections, Creations, Communicore Hall and the actual central hub) cost probably close to that, if not more.

I think what we have is an improvement over what was there before, but overall think it could've had some more "grandeur"
The hub definitely did not cost anywhere close to that. Significantly more went into Guardians and it wasn't over $500M. Other than rehabbing CommuniCore East and putting up Plaza/Hall, this entire project was removing some old pavement and installing some new pavement. The lights and the Walt statue were likely the most expensive elements in the whole thing.
 

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