News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

DCLcruiser

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Just released art for the D23 Exp this August. Imagine if they brought back Horizons? One can dream :/
They don't mean the ride.

"Horizons: Disney Experiences Showcase, will take place on Saturday, August 10 at the Honda Center. Josh D’Amaro will welcome fans as he takes the stage with surprise stars and special guests for a live celebration of the music and creativity that power our stories and — of course — news and updates about projects in development around the world. The future is bright for Disney Experiences and this can’t-miss showcase will show fans what’s on the horizon and beyond."
 

Disstevefan1

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They don't mean the ride.

"Horizons: Disney Experiences Showcase, will take place on Saturday, August 10 at the Honda Center. Josh D’Amaro will welcome fans as he takes the stage with surprise stars and special guests for a live celebration of the music and creativity that power our stories and — of course — news and updates about projects in development around the world. The future is bright for Disney Experiences and this can’t-miss showcase will show fans what’s on the horizon and beyond."
Some things we will NEVER see again -
Horizons
Osborne Lights :cry:
Illuminations
Fountain of Nations
Lights of winter.
Cinderella Castle’s Dream Lights.

Ahh, the good old days.....
 

Bocabear

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They don't mean the ride.

"Horizons: Disney Experiences Showcase, will take place on Saturday, August 10 at the Honda Center. Josh D’Amaro will welcome fans as he takes the stage with surprise stars and special guests for a live celebration of the music and creativity that power our stories and — of course — news and updates about projects in development around the world. The future is bright for Disney Experiences and this can’t-miss showcase will show fans what’s on the horizon and beyond."
but not in the US... We will continue to get retreads and a whole lot of nothing but meet and greets and cupcake parties....That is going to be a fascinating panel. I would love to hear the audience boo him off the stage when he doesn't announce anything for Dreamfinder and Figment....lol
As long as we keep applauding their mediocre, budget-slashed projects, that is what we will continue to get...
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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They don't mean the ride.

"Horizons: Disney Experiences Showcase, will take place on Saturday, August 10 at the Honda Center. Josh D’Amaro will welcome fans as he takes the stage with surprise stars and special guests for a live celebration of the music and creativity that power our stories and — of course — news and updates about projects in development around the world. The future is bright for Disney Experiences and this can’t-miss showcase will show fans what’s on the horizon and beyond."
Josh sounds like a used cars salesman. Kicking tires on stage.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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It doesn't look bad because it's empty

it looks bad because it's a ridiculously scaled back design from what was originally planned and turned out having the architecture of a school cafeteria or local mall regardless of what decor they want to stick on the walls or hang on the ceilings during festival time. if they were going to do this, they could have just left innoventions and just remodel it a little. This took an insane amount of time and money....for this

this is what is wrong with Disney today - if only their imagineers would walk down the pathway a little further and learn about imagination (although they botched that last redesign too)
Exactly, to me no matter how they decorate for the festivals the building interior will still appear like a high school Breakfast Club detention hall. It's like a community neighborhood park place where some outdoor BBQ and a field day... and the rest of World Celebration looking like a college campus.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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if they were going to do this, they could have just left innoventions and just remodel it a little. This took an insane amount of time and money....for this
It's shocking how much they tore down immediately. Fountain of Nations and Innovention's West when they could of started tearing just half of Innoventions and first focused on Journey of Water. Since they were remodeling Innoventions East it would made sense keeping the South side by Imagination as is until they decided Festival Center building foundation and building assembly was guaranteed. This is why a preview center the Universal route is better because at least everything you see there is a guaranteed vs wowing you and half luckily none of anything could of happened.
 

lazyboy97o

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It's shocking how much they tore down immediately. Fountain of Nations and Innovention's West when they could of started tearing just half of Innoventions and first focused on Journey of Water. Since they were remodeling Innoventions East it would made sense keeping the South side by Imagination as is until they decided Festival Center building foundation and building assembly was guaranteed. This is why a preview center the Universal route is better because at least everything you see there is a guaranteed vs wowing you and half luckily none of anything could of happened.
That would have made absolutely no sense. It would have required a bunch of extra, temporary work at a time when the Festival Center was very much a go.

Universal has now closed both attractions in Lost Continent for a project that’s still not definite.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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That would have made absolutely no sense. It would have required a bunch of extra, temporary work at a time when the Festival Center was very much a go.
I don't think it would have made much of a difference, however Journey of Water was very much a supplemental project to the Festival Center. What should have happened was it should have been cancelled as soon as they knew the original Festival Center was not moving forward. Hindsight being 20/20 of course you can say "they should've tore the other side down first" because we know JoW ended up finished, but at a time when both the Festival Center and JoW were still full steam ahead it did not matter which one went down first. The big mistake was continuing the demo post-COVID in the first place.
Universal has now closed both attractions in Lost Continent for a project that’s still not definite.
You could say the same thing about several facilities at EPCOT that closed and sat empty while their replacement projects were either in limbo or not being drawn up at all. Lost Continent's replacement at least has an IP locked in, it just needs to finally get out of creative hell and get a timeline set up.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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That would have made absolutely no sense. It would have required a bunch of extra, temporary work at a time when the Festival Center was very much a go.

Universal has now closed both attractions in Lost Continent for a project that’s still not definite.
The Festival Center wasn't a go. Turned out it didn't happen and therefore we lost part of Innoventions that could been kept and saved costs.
 

Incomudro

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I'm quite happy we didn't get the table.
I didn't like that thing at all.
The problem for me is that the rest of it didn't come together like it should have.
I like the park like area they opened first - that's a big plus for me over what was there.
I liked the lights, if only they worked.
The planter is a tremendous miss as I repeatedly say.
I like the idea of the stage area, but the execution is poor.
 
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Bocabear

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That's the whole thing though... Nothing is quite right.... Why a planter? Who came up with that idea? and it is a weird planter on top of that. The current Festival Center is terrible... The stage looks like every performer's nightmare... They could have built a better stage with more space and backstage area that would be more conducive to better entertainment...rather than a platform with a circular ramp. It just feels like something thrown together... All of it does.... Only thing that feels like it makes sense was remodeling Communicore East and opening up the spaces and letting the building breathe...
 

lazyboy97o

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The Festival Center wasn't a go. Turned out it didn't happen and therefore we lost part of Innoventions that could been kept and saved costs.
They didn’t tear down the building and then decide what to do. They tore down the building because they had decided to build the Festival Center. The Festival Center was a lousy, very expensive idea but it was very much going to happen. Trying to put CommuniCore West back to together after the Festival Center was cancelled would have been like putting Humpty Dumpty back together.
 

Epcot81Fan

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Our expectations are so low now that we are actually discussing whether The Walt Disney Company should be able to properly design a planter and stage.

We've come a long way from this:

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Epcot82Guy

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Our expectations are so low now that we are actually discussing whether The Walt Disney Company should be able to properly design a planter and stage.

We've come a long way from this:

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To this day, one of my favorite purchases. Along with my opening day ticket and CM opening day book. There is no doubt what it was wouldn't work today. But, the ambition and drive to create something unique is definitely far in the rear view mirror. And, I refuse to believe humans don't want that. There was a vision to the original park (and, with all its faults, a legitimate "mission").

There is no reason EPCOT today couldn't target both that mission and the more fun and Disney preferences of most of the current attendee models. Again, it just isn't as "easy" or "safe" as what they have done.
 

HMF

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Did Old Epcot contain any large momuments to how proud Walt would have been of the designers?

Or is that solely a thing the New Epcot people thought would be a good idea?
If the original designers thought they needed a Walt Statue. They would have had one built with the place. The park is supposed to be about humankind and building a better future.
 

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