News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[Epcot81Fan]

If the original designers thought they needed a Walt Statue. They would have had one built with the place. The park is supposed to be about humankind and building a better future.

You just don’t get get.

Epcot is not about humankind and building a better future - it’s clearly about shameless nostalgic pandering used as air cover for lazy and incompetent design choices.

Look, there’s Walt!

Over there, look, a wall graphic of Figment!

Hey, remember World of Motion and Horizons?!

Well, here’s a planter!

 

[aladdin2007]

Our expectations are so low now that we are actually discussing whether The Walt Disney Company should be able to properly design a planter and stage.

We've come a long way from this:

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I would replace the above strike through with "fallen"....but yes one of the best Disney books ever published. For anyone ever looking for a copy make sure its the full version, not the condensed thinner edition.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

When they started demo in 2019, Festival centre was still the plan. It wasn't until mid 2020 when signs of the Festival Center was cancelled

I know that, It's just rather they removed things in phases they went entirely.. Now if the Festival Center was the first thing that would be built then okay maybe that was the case.. if it would been the last thing completed then they'd still need to time to get this completed is what I assume was their course.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

Did Old Epcot contain any large momuments to how proud Walt would have been of the designers?

Or is that solely a thing the New Epcot people thought would be a good idea?

I think the stereotype itself is obnoxious, but yes, this is a participation trophy under the guise of celebrating an anniversary.

 

[KDM31091]

I miss the first couple seasons of the LWTL overlay being just a nice, quiet change of pace. But then it become the typical overcrowded FOMO thing.

 

[HauntedPirate]

If the original designers thought they needed a Walt Statue. They would have had one built with the place. The park is supposed to be about humankind and building a better future.

Is there a movie about that? Otherwise there’s no way to do it, because Bob and Josh know what guests want, and what they want is more movie IP everywhere.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I miss the first couple seasons of the LWTL overlay being just a nice, quiet change of pace. But then it become the typical overcrowded FOMO thing.

I also liked it more when it wasn’t advertised at all. Now it’s just what you described, the dumb FOMO crush of people because everyone needs to see it everywhere on social media. Our society is doomed.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Did Old Epcot contain any large momuments to how proud Walt would have been of the designers?

Or is that solely a thing the New Epcot people thought would be a good idea?

If I had to guess it be just the setup of how Future World ends up looking now. Just because it appears like a walking state park (to me still community college) only with this look is appropriate to put a statue.

However, the statue of Walt sitting facing the Gardens I don't want people who walk there thinking that was Walt's Epcot vision because it wasn't. A Walt Sitting statue on Main Street USA or facing toward World Showcase or in the front area entrance of Epcot with Spaceship Earth would be been more with Walt than him sitting in meh World Celebration Gardens...

 

[Moth]

That would have made absolutely no sense. It would have required a bunch of extra, temporary work at a time when the Festival Center was very much a go.

Universal has now closed both attractions in Lost Continent for a project that’s still not definite.

Zelda is locked in, they're just waiting until they get EU open before they push more.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Zelda is locked in, they're just waiting until they get EU open before they push more.

Zelda has been in development hell for years. It was “locked in” when they closed Sinbad. And knowing you want to do something with a property doesn’t tell you exactly what.

 

[MisterPenguin]

However, the statue of Walt sitting facing the Gardens I don't want people who walk there thinking that was Walt's Epcot vision because it wasn't.

Neither was ol' Future World that a lot of people loved. That wasn't his dream, either.

 

[Virtual Toad]

Neither was ol' Future World that a lot of people loved. That wasn't his dream, either.

At least Future World embodied and reflected Walt's forward thinking and optimistic spirit. The current mess does absolutely nothing of the sort.

 

[ZachPL]

Zelda has been in development hell for years. It was “locked in” when they closed Sinbad. And knowing you want to do something with a property doesn’t tell you exactly what.

I don't really think it's development hell, more that when they closed sinbad they expected nintendo land to be built in USF and then zelda in lost continent after, as the plans for epic happened rapidly. Now it's likely just delayed till epic is finished.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

At least Future World embodied and reflected Walt's forward thinking and optimistic spirit. The current mess does absolutely nothing of the sort.

Please educate yourself on the history of Epcot:

“I have an idea - for a place where people can someday ride roller coasters with comic book characters. I call it “Epcot”.”

- Walt Disney, May 1966

 

[WorldExplorer]

At least Future World embodied and reflected Walt's forward thinking and optimistic spirit. The current mess does absolutely nothing of the sort.

And no one involved in it erected a statue to how well they were fulfilling Walt's dream.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't really think it's development hell, more that when they closed sinbad they expected nintendo land to be built in USF and then zelda in lost continent after, as the plans for epic happened rapidly. Now it's likely just delayed till epic is finished.

This is just wanting to believe that Universal is super decisive and fast when they are not. Ready to go plans were not just put on a shelf for later.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Some things we will NEVER see again -
Horizons
Osborne Lights
Illuminations
Fountain of Nations
Lights of winter.
Cinderella Castle’s Dream Lights.

Ahh, the good old days.....

Downtown Disney being open until 2am...
Characters water-skiing in Seven Seas Lagoon
Disney's Magical Express
Wishes and Holiday Verisons
Backlot Tour & Catastrophy Canyon
A very quiet Streets of America after 7pm
Who Wants to Be A Millionaire PLAY IT
Innoventions and the best dang loop ever played!!

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Neither was ol' Future World that a lot of people loved. That wasn't his dream, either.

The whole EPCOT CENTER wasn't what he wanted Either....

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

And no one involved in it erected a statue to how well they were fulfilling Walt's dream.

If anything Card Walker should have a bench statue that sits off to the side in the main entrance plaza with Figment..

Or at least have this piece displayed somewhere..Maybe C-Hall. For if it weren't for them EPCOT would not be what it was.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

The whole EPCOT CENTER wasn't what he wanted Either....

no it wasn't except he had planned of having a World Showcase.