Mike S
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I need to catch up. I've still only read the first issue, lol.
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News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?
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brb1006
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I'm planning on getting Figment 2 for my upcoming birthday.
jt04
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The newer and bolder Space Pavilion is now at Cape Canaveral. Looks like the newer and bolder Land Pavilion will be going to Italy...
http://newatlas.com/carlo-ratti-associati-area-del-futuro-fico-eataly-world/44695/
http://newatlas.com/carlo-ratti-associati-area-del-futuro-fico-eataly-world/44695/
M:S should be getting some love.
It's not going anywhere (for anyone who thought it would be)
Just don't eat that fancy meal right after getting back from Mars. Or after coming back out of orbit
Futureworld East seems like it might get a few more places to eat. Just not Odyssey (sigh)
It's not going anywhere (for anyone who thought it would be)
Just don't eat that fancy meal right after getting back from Mars. Or after coming back out of orbit
Futureworld East seems like it might get a few more places to eat. Just not Odyssey (sigh)
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jt04
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M:S should be getting some love.
It's not going anywhere (for anyone who thought it would be)
Just don't eat that fancy meal right after getting off. Or coming back out of orbit
Cool thing about M:S is it is easily rethemed/reimagined.
DinoInstitute
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Of all things to spend the money to update...why mission space?M:S should be getting some love.
It's not going anywhere (for anyone who thought it would be)
Just don't eat that fancy meal right after getting back from Mars. Or after coming back out of orbit
Futureworld East seems like it might get a few more places to eat. Just not Odyssey (sigh)
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It needs it, it will be relatively cheap, it will solve a few issues and will assist in something else.Of all things to update...why mission space?
DinoInstitute
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I actually haven't been on M:S in a while so I haven't really noticed it getting aged, though it doesn't immediately jump out as one of the things that could use being updated. As long as Epcot's getting love though that isn't another IP overlay, I'm a bit happy
RoysCabin
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Mission: SPACE really needs a reason to be beyond the gravitron. That part of the proceedings could easily be updated with a new narration/story/film/etc., but holy moly is the postshow abysmal and uninspiring and clearly a way to keep kids mildly amused for five minutes while mom or dad steps into the gift shop.
Would give just about anything to see the old space pavilion concept brought to life, but that's way, way gone.
Would give just about anything to see the old space pavilion concept brought to life, but that's way, way gone.
V_L_Raptor
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You could make the case that there was already a supremacy message of sorts, because none of the other WS pavilions have a showpiece with quite the same level of backstage hardware that American Adventure does. Nowadays I wouldn't call it a nationalistic supremacy message so much as a generational one, and the generations are within WDW and WDI, at that.
Ripping all of that out to put in some IP stuff... Well, they've torn up some significant systems and designs before (<insert obligatory moment of silence here>), but I'm not so sure they'd get away with hacking up that one. (I expect it stays busy, anyhow. Hard to see how they'd get rid of something with that kind of traffic, but stranger things have happened.)
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mimitchi33
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My sister has only read Figment 2. It's interesting, she says, and is about a tween girl meeting Figment.
If The American Adventure did remain, that would be great, because what property would they use if World Showcase did in fact become full of IP's? In one of my old guidebooks, they used Toy Story to represent that pavilion, but we are already getting Toy Story Land in Hollywood Studios, and there's already a Muppet show about America coming to Magic Kingdom. My guess is that if they did want to close American Adventure, the Muppet show will move to there if it proves successful enough and American Adventure does close. But I'm 100% sure they would not remove American Adventure.
Another thing I think we'll see them do if they want IP's in World Showcase is a ride based off a Studio Ghibli film in Japan. Disney does own some of their films. My guess is that they might use My Neighbor Totoro.
I had to look up WoM after my parents said they met one of their best friends waiting in line for it one Christmas. From what I read, it seemed like Spaceship Earth, but about transportation. So I kind of agree with you there. The old Imagination was better special effects-wise as well. I saw it on YouTube and it was so beautiful. It felt like you were in a world of fantasy!
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Thanks phoenicians
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In another thread it was mentioned a new pavilion may have a chance at being built in WS this would be great to help balance out what will hopefully be a revitalized FW and spread some crowds out to WS especially if it were to have a good attraction. As for FW hopefully the building formerly known as wonders will get a full gut and a PROPER attraction not GOTG part II. Then maybe just maybe imagination could move up the queue at some point.
UpAllNight
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M:S should be getting some love.
It's not going anywhere (for anyone who thought it would be)
Just don't eat that fancy meal right after getting back from Mars. Or after coming back out of orbit
Futureworld East seems like it might get a few more places to eat. Just not Odyssey (sigh)
I'm pleased at this. I've watched your vid on what this ride could have been and I know it's a sore subject for many because what it replaced....but I actually thought it was a great, immersive and unique attraction but in need of some updates.
Any word on a timeframe?
danlb_2000
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If they were to put an attraction into the format Wonders of Life pavilion I wonder if they will build a new facility to accommodate the festival events.
Biff215
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I know they use it already, but why doesn't World Showplace serve as the festival center? It's location seems to make more sense with most things focused on World Showcase. WoL always seemed like a strange location.
danlb_2000
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During Food and Wine, World Showplace is used for a lot of the upcharge events.
Biff215
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Wouldn't want to displace those!
DinoInstitute
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Isn't there a lot of space in Innoventions sitting empty? I think it was West that closed a bunch a while ago but I can't remember if there's anything there now. If not, I feel like that would be a good place for events.
HauntedMansionFLA
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Didn't Martin say WoL made good money because of the festivals?
No Name
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For Future World, I truly think it'd be best not to add a new pavillion in either of the two (or maybe only one) remaining expansion spaces. And on that note, I do not think Wonders of Life should reopen as a standalone pavillion. Unpopular opinion, but I will try to explain.
Wonders of Life's fundamental problem, and a significant cause of its closing, was that it was tucked away. Unlike all of the other pavillions, you couldn't really see it until you got close. There was no good weenie to draw you in. Only a sign and the spiraling thingy, but that paled in comparison to the other six big, visible buildings and Spaceship Earth. Now that may not seem like an issue to us experienced people, but the average new guest is very much "see and do." So if they don't see it, they miss it.
Now, I suppose if Disney were to try again, they could squeeze the added pavillion closer to the walkway and build some bigger weenie to draw people in. But, one, that would hurt the symmetry of Future World. And two, that would severely overcrowd a section of it. And so by adding, they'd actually be subtracting. How so? Because the open space around the visible part of each pavillion is what defines it. It's what makes it appear more grand. It's what triggers the average guest's brain to know that this is important, this is something good. That this is something they should see and do.
The expansion pads are so tight that almost all open space would be lost. And so the new pavilion, along with the older ones butting up against it, would all appear less grand.
So there really is no good way to add another Future World pavillion. Is there?
I'd be far far more in favor of them doing what they did with The Land pavillion, adding another ride/attraction out of guest view that uses the expansion space. That way, the park aesthetics remain intact. And each pavillion becomes an even more solid experience. I believe that is the best long-term vision for Future World.
I hope I explained that clearly. It's a tough concept for me to put into words.
Wonders of Life's fundamental problem, and a significant cause of its closing, was that it was tucked away. Unlike all of the other pavillions, you couldn't really see it until you got close. There was no good weenie to draw you in. Only a sign and the spiraling thingy, but that paled in comparison to the other six big, visible buildings and Spaceship Earth. Now that may not seem like an issue to us experienced people, but the average new guest is very much "see and do." So if they don't see it, they miss it.
Now, I suppose if Disney were to try again, they could squeeze the added pavillion closer to the walkway and build some bigger weenie to draw people in. But, one, that would hurt the symmetry of Future World. And two, that would severely overcrowd a section of it. And so by adding, they'd actually be subtracting. How so? Because the open space around the visible part of each pavillion is what defines it. It's what makes it appear more grand. It's what triggers the average guest's brain to know that this is important, this is something good. That this is something they should see and do.
The expansion pads are so tight that almost all open space would be lost. And so the new pavilion, along with the older ones butting up against it, would all appear less grand.
So there really is no good way to add another Future World pavillion. Is there?
I'd be far far more in favor of them doing what they did with The Land pavillion, adding another ride/attraction out of guest view that uses the expansion space. That way, the park aesthetics remain intact. And each pavillion becomes an even more solid experience. I believe that is the best long-term vision for Future World.
I hope I explained that clearly. It's a tough concept for me to put into words.
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