That was always going to be the case with the spine, just with the original intention being a more visually interesting elevated version of Communicore Hall and a more chaotic garden, which might have included one additional small fountain and whatever the wishing tree was. The goal in the center of the park was pretty much always just a refresh. I think folks who are shrugging now would've been shrugging anyway even without the budget cuts.This is an honest, legitimate question that I'm asking. I'm not trying to just stir things up. Does anyone know what we've actually gained over these past years with the changes to epcot?
We lost the cool huge fountain and have a smaller one with a somewhat cool looking statue thing.
We have the Moana walk through.
The lights on spaceship earth, which are actually really cool.
But I'm trying for the life of me to think of anything else notable and I just can't. I know they repainted some buildings and renovated some buildings like adding the new quick service place and the new store. However, I wouldn't really call those notable additions.
I just feel like a huge part of this park was shut down for years on end and now that it's finished I'm kind of like:
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This is an honest, legitimate question that I'm asking. I'm not trying to just stir things up. Does anyone know what we've actually gained over these past years with the changes to epcot?
We lost the cool huge fountain and have a smaller one with a somewhat cool looking statue thing.
We have the Moana walk through.
The lights on spaceship earth, which are actually really cool.
But I'm trying for the life of me to think of anything else notable and I just can't. I know they repainted some buildings and renovated some buildings like adding the new quick service place and the new store. However, I wouldn't really call those notable additions.
I just feel like a huge part of this park was shut down for years on end and now that it's finished I'm kind of like:
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Well rumors started swirling in the fall of 2015 when this thread began.Can any smart person here gather up the Epcot overhaul announce date vs. break-ground date vs. Final end date?
I'd love to see the numbers listed in months so we can use it as a guage to predict the speed of future promised projects.
Again....nothing,..not one single Blue Sky water color painting is worth ANYthing until is has an actual Disney Finance Department green light stamp on it. Without that?...Josh can say he is thinking about building 5 new parks with a 6th one being built on the moon.
"What if...." is 100% nothing in the real world if it does not have Disney Finance ready to pay for it and start writing checks to start them.
I agree. If you think about how long it actually took to build the MK from the first groundbreaking to opening day, it's ridiculous just how long this Epcot construction has taken even with the COVID delay. I actually am so tired of seeing walls and construction around the parks that I just don't want any more projects started for a very long time.This is an honest, legitimate question that I'm asking. I'm not trying to just stir things up. Does anyone know what we've actually gained over these past years with the changes to epcot?
We lost the cool huge fountain and have a smaller one with a somewhat cool looking statue thing.
We have the Moana walk through.
The lights on spaceship earth, which are actually really cool.
But I'm trying for the life of me to think of anything else notable and I just can't. I know they repainted some buildings and renovated some buildings like adding the new quick service place and the new store. However, I wouldn't really call those notable additions.
I just feel like a huge part of this park was shut down for years on end and now that it's finished I'm kind of like:
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I agree. If you think about how long it actually took to build the MK from the first groundbreaking to opening day, it's ridiculous just how long this Epcot construction has taken even with the COVID delay. I actually am so tired of seeing walls and construction around the parks that I just don't want any more projects started for a very long time.
I think it's a matter of whether it enhances or confuses navigation. They should definitely drop the walls behind Dreamers Point and around the perimeter of Journey of Water as soon as possible, but I kind of waffle on the rest of the gardens. I can understand not wanting Dreamers Point open while it's overlooking a construction site, and without the central planter open, a lot of the garden paths would terminate in confusing ways.I hope they aren't planning to keep the entire area screened off for some grand reveal. If that's the intent, I think they severely miscalculate guest excitement for the finished product vs. guest annoyance at its current state.
Those walls need to keep slowly receding until December...like they've been doing for the last year-ish. The NW, NE, and especially the SE quadrants all look like they could be ready to go in a matter of weeks if any care was shown to the guest experience.
Is this referring to the fountain in the front entry courtyard? If so, it was just a restoration of the original fountain...so not really something "new" just repairing the original. I have not heard of any other new fountain, and nothing for the Communicore courtyard as of yet. There is a "promotional display" planter at the center... but from what I have seen, no additional water features sadly.This is an honest, legitimate question that I'm asking. I'm not trying to just stir things up. Does anyone know what we've actually gained over these past years with the changes to epcot?
We lost the cool huge fountain and have a smaller one with a somewhat cool looking statue thing.
We have the Moana walk through.
The lights on spaceship earth, which are actually really cool.
But I'm trying for the life of me to think of anything else notable and I just can't. I know they repainted some buildings and renovated some buildings like adding the new quick service place and the new store. However, I wouldn't really call those notable additions.
I just feel like a huge part of this park was shut down for years on end and now that it's finished I'm kind of like:
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Space 220 was announced at D23 2017. Construction began in July 2018. Originally slated to open Winter 2019, delayed two years for a total turnaround time of ~4 years.Space 220 was announced at D23 2019...construction began in ~August of 2019. Opened in September 2021, roughly 2 years but probably the quickest turn around for all of the Epcot projects.
Is this referring to the fountain in the front entry courtyard? If so, it was just a restoration of the original fountain...so not really something "new" just repairing the original. I have not heard of any other new fountain, and nothing for the Communicore courtyard as of yet. There is a "promotional display" planter at the center... but from what I have seen, no additional water features sadly.
Ahhhhhh what beautiful symmetry… *sigh*I saw a photo of the area from before those times, and it’s really a shame they… changed it to what it became, and it’s good they are changing it to a greener space.
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I think it was missing for a while since there are pics of Figment’s Fab 50 statue where it’s not present, but I agree that, while my memory of this particular sign is not 100% crystal clear, the color scheme and whirligig design elements are definitely more in keeping with the previous redesign.Is that a joke? It's been there forever and even looks to be a bit moldy
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