News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

Josh Hendy

Well-Known Member
They've managed to keep people coming in by offering fun seasonal options
Correct me if I'm wrong, I've never been to Food & Wine. But isn't one of the big things about it, that it started out giving free or cheap food and drink samples, but soon turned into really expensive, tiny fast-food snacks and ballpark priced, minuscule wine and beer samples?

Which of course people continued buying in record numbers.
 

HauntedPirate

Sheltered-at-home Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Advertisement
Correct me if I'm wrong, I've never been to Food & Wine. But isn't one of the big things about it, that it started out giving free or cheap food and drink samples, but soon turned into really expensive, tiny fast-food snacks and ballpark priced, minuscule wine and beer samples?

Which of course people continued buying in record numbers.
I'd say that's fairly accurate. :greedy::greedy::greedy:
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Imagine if they had invested in Epcot 15 years ago and didn't have to rely on "festivals" to keep people coming to a Disney theme park.
That would require leadership that understands why people have any interest in going to theme parks in the first place. It also would have had to comply with the franchise mandate, because there was no business case to try and repeat the huge financial success of the roller coaster themed to India or whatever.
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
That would require leadership that understands why people have any interest in going to theme parks in the first place. It also would have had to comply with the franchise mandate, because there was no business case to try and repeat the huge financial success of the roller coaster themed to India or whatever.
That quote from Iger really said it all. One of the world's best theme park attractions rather ignorantly dismissed by the head of the company that built it. And the hamfisted attempt by Iger & Co. to walk back and "erase" his saying that only adds to the absurdity.
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
That quote from Iger really said it all. One of the world's best theme park attractions rather ignorantly dismissed by the head of the company that built it. And the hamfisted attempt by Iger & Co. to walk back and "erase" his saying that only adds to the absurdity.
"Spicy" Joe Rohde is best Joe Rohde (his response to Iger):
http://instagr.am/p/BsPSajRHCPH/
Expedition Everest. Now here’s a thing. When we started out this project, it was going to be set in Bhutan, because Bhutan has a climate that is much closer to Florida’s. And Bhutan has its own set of legends related to the Yeti. Some of the very earliest renderings of Disney’s animal Kingdom show a snowcapped mountain in this corner of the park with a Bhutanese palace in the foreground. But the architecture of Bhutan is fantastically elaborate, especially because Bhutanese roof structures are super complex timber framed affairs, almost Japanesey. And so, rather early in the development process, we redirected our design energy towards Nepal, and the flat-roofed architecture of the forbidden kingdom of Mustang. I had already been there once before, and so I had a limited number of photographs that we could start from. Later, we took a short design trip, which was in itself a bit of a harrowing adventure, to visit the towns of Kagbeni, Marpha, Jomsom, Thini, and Syang...All part of the Cultural complex in the upper Kali Gandaki Valley of Nepal. Nowadays, all of these places are searchable on Instagram… So you can look for yourself and compare. It would also be instructive to look at Bhutanese architecture (also accessible on Instagram) and see how simply removing the elaborate roof structures could bring us so close to the final look.

Basically, he's making a point of how much research went into it instead of being "ok it's India, here's a temple, a mountain, now shove a coaster through them".
 

Josh Hendy

Well-Known Member
Basically, he's making a point of how much research went into it instead of being "ok it's India, here's a temple, a mountain, now shove a coaster through them".
Sort of like what some people said they did in the design of Epcot's "fake Paris" especially the new/old backstage area. Then there was that really snarky post from someone who recognized the color scheme from Rue Crémieux (although the architecture of the blue building is still pretty wacky) 🤔

Today, most of these research trips could be done through instagram and Street View ... though you would probably never get all the interior details such as molding, furniture, doors and doorknobs etc.
 

danlb_2000

Well-Known Member

tparris

Well-Known Member
Despite the construction shut down, there were a number of interesting permits today all of which are a little cryptic.

Test Track is at 1440 Avenue of the Stars so this one is somewhere near there. The actual address isn't on the Reedy Creek site.

3/20/2020 - Epcot - Whiting Turner Contracting Co
1442 Avenue of the Stars (Near Test Track) - 200 PKG 5 - Underground Utilities & concrete Structural Details
The permit description sounds like it would have something to do with the utilidor under the already razed section of Innoventions west, with its foundation doubling as the ceiling for the tunnel and all. However the location mentioned goes against that, so I’ve no idea what it could be for.
 

realBobChapek

Chief Executive Officer & Board Member
Premium Member
I had an idea about what could/should happen when the parks reopen.

Instead of reopening Epcot entirely, or keeping it closed until the fall (which was rumored I believe), World Showcase could open to the guests staying at the Boardwalk resorts (Beach Club, Yacht Club, Boardwalk, Swan/Dolphin). This could be a perk for guests staying at those resorts, perhaps for a small fee. If international CMs are not available, temporarily utilize American workers.

Future World could remain closed until next year when the crowds begin to return to normal so that work could be done. The reopening could be marketed as part of the 50th. Space 220, GOTG, the new MouseGear/Electric Umbrella could all open together as part of phase 1, with the rest coming later. Ratatouille could either open this Summer as planned, or it could be intentionally delayed to coincide with the Future World reopening.

With the small crowds expected, I doubt Future World is needed any time soon. World Showcase shops/restaurants could be used to recuperate some losses.
 

Castastone

Voice of Aladdin’s Magic Carpet
Premium Member

Good news and bad news.
No mention of Journey of Water if that gets cancelled if the demolition of Innoventions West is now just pointless
What even is this article?

Disney is losing $350,000 a day due to park closures?? I’m not an insider but I’d bet that’s a lot closer what my local IKEA store is losing per day than Disney Parks, which has billions in annual expenses (I’d guesstimate Disney’s losses from park closures in the range of $25-$50 million dollars per day).

The rest just reads like most of the guessing threads around the internet. Weird article.
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member

Good news and bad news.
No mention of Journey of Water if that gets cancelled if the demolition of Innoventions West is now just pointless
When you [the author of the article] talk about the re-do of Imagination as if there was something greenlit... it's to be taken with a spoonful of salt.
 
Top Bottom