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DVCakaCarlF

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I've thought about this too, but wouldn't it be kind of pointless to rebuild a building they JUST tore down? Might as well take advantage of the clean slate and build something completely new in that spot.

I agree that nothing else needs to be demolished at this point.
1) They probably don’t have a set of plans, and that will both delay the project and add cost in design fees.

2) They probably already disconnected all the infrastructure (power, water, etc), so trying to figure that all out again will be a nightmare.

3) The general conditions assessed by the contractors will continue to accumulate while this is all being sorted out.

I have seen this personally in commercial construction.
 

nickys

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After all the marketing and planning, do you really think they would punt and “semi” start over?
There’s a great big hole there currently, at least a razed area. Something has to happen with it. And many projects will get deferred or cancelled altogether as a result of the closure. WDW cannot just continue as if they haven’t sustained losses. Projects that haven’t started yet are most likely to be postponed / cancelled, especially one as expensive as the new super-expensive bar on legs.

They need quick solutions so that when GotG opens, the rest of “FW“ can be opened up ASAP.
 

DVCakaCarlF

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I know the place is bleeding money, but, like all recessions, it is temporary.

I would like to think a company like TWDC would take this opportunity to get a lot done for a lower cost, and “invest” in the future for when things ramp back up...then, they can start counting how many billions they are rolling in each day.

Besides, anything that can generate an “up sell,” I would think, should be a no brainer - alcohol, merchandise, special ticketed events.
 

alphac2005

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I know the place is bleeding money, but, like all recessions, it is temporary.

I would like to think a company like TWDC would take this opportunity to get a lot done for a lower cost, and “invest” in the future for when things ramp back up...then, they can start counting how many billions they are rolling in each day.

Besides, anything that can generate an “up sell,” I would think, should be a no brainer - alcohol, merchandise, special ticketed events.
This is structurally very different than a typical recession and honestly not comparable. You have huge expenditures regardless of whether the company is bringing in revenue or not While having billions of dollars in cash on-hand and at least double that amount in available lines of credit, that cash burn rate is quick. The cost cutting will most likely be everywhere and substantial. TWDC's main sources of revenue have been cut off at the knees across nearly every unit.
 

Clamman73

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I've thought about this too, but wouldn't it be kind of pointless to rebuild a building they JUST tore down? Might as well take advantage of the clean slate and build something completely new in that spot.

I agree that nothing else needs to be demolished at this point.
But it‘s not like it was a ride building that was shown and vehicles and show scenes were already being developed...it was just a place to have a beer.

For not that much they can build something aesthetically pleasing, functional for the area and something that blends in well with the east side. It seems like it was a wrong approach to begin with wanting to build that table top thing...I think the middle section east/west needs to be a mirror-like image of each other.
 

britain

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Yep. It’s happened many times before.

Equitorial Africa was even shown on national television.
Sure, but it’s not like the Equatorial Africa pavilion was the subject of a 10+ year objective (we could go back further if we wanted to include Project Gemini).

Disney MGM Europe is probably a more appropriate “They promised this on national TV before it was downsized”comparison.
 

Horizons1

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After all the marketing and planning, do you really think they would punt and “semi” start over?
Google the Disney Decade and look at ALL of the plans that were announced and advertised, but never saw ground broken. Disney is notorious for announcing projects and then pretending they never existed. There was some 10 to 15 minute preview for the “upcoming” Russian pavilion I watched on YouTube recently. Very fascinating and it’s a shame it didn’t happen, but Disney was marketing that project before it even got off the ground, and then they just abandoned it.
 

trainplane3

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I’m ready for something new. I would be very disappointed if everything they showed at D23 doesn’t get built at some point in the next few years. I’m quite worried really.
I want something new too. But I want something better then a some tiny bar in the middle of a park. They can do better then that, we all know it.

WoL was pretty busy when it was the "Festival Center". This is smaller and is expected to pick up the same amount of slack? Hah.

Also, packing people into an already small building isn't going to be a good look for the time being (with the virus crap going on). So half the capacity for the leggy egg. And I know by the time it should open, this virus should be crapped out but who knows anything at this point.
 
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