News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

PREMiERdrum

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Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?
 

castlecake2.0

Well-Known Member
Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?
Honestly 2 new attractions, sprucing up of some smaller attractions, reopening all the closed shops/dining, and adding back some entertainment is what MK needs. Why create new infrastructure when there’s still plenty of closed infrastructure?
 

mattpeto

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Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?

Moana in AL or beyond BTM?
 

SpectroBro

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In the Parks
Yes
Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?
Honestly I’d rather see them do something with the Stitch space in the near term.
 

lazyboy97o

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Allegedly this will never happen because the whole building - which includes Cosmic Ray's - would have to be completely gutted and rebuilt to current code.
Between the EPCOT Building Code, Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code there are different levels and criteria of renovation that trigger different amounts of updates. This is all dependent on the specific design of the existing facility, the nature of the new project and the scope of work. The big thing that really triggers significant updates is a change of occupancy, but a new attraction would not be a change of occupancy.
 

PREMiERdrum

Well-Known Member
They're still considering Moana for Animal Kingdom?
No.

AK is locked with Indy, Encanto, and a Coco-inspired carousel.
Additional expansion being considered with Lion King and/or Pandora.

MK is trending towards Moana in AL and Coco as BBTM phase 1.

RSR, Villains, Zootopia are also under consideration for both MK and DHS. Very much undecided what and where at this point.
 

castlecake2.0

Well-Known Member
No.

AK is locked with Indy, Encanto, and a Coco-inspired carousel.
Additional expansion being considered with Lion King and/or Pandora.

MK is trending towards Moana in AL and Coco as BBTM phase 1.

RSR, Villains, Zootopia are also under consideration for both MK and DHS. Very much undecided what and where at this point.
RSR to where Indy show is, easy transition, from Hollywood Blvd to that area, retheme backlot to a car garage; done. Keep star tours and move all the Star Wars characters to the celebrity spotlight area and have a small out of universe Star Wars area; done. Put all the Disney characters back into the animation building with some updated props and animation academy; done.
 

PREMiERdrum

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RSR to where Indy show is, easy transition, from Hollywood Blvd to that area, retheme backlot to a car garage; done. Keep star tours and move all the Star Wars characters to the celebrity spotlight area and have a small out of universe Star Wars area; done. Put all the Disney characters back into the animation building with some updated props and animation academy; done.
Indy is safe for the foreseeable future. Echo Lake development is off the table.
 

doctornick

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They're still considering Moana for Animal Kingdom?

Are you kidding me?

Moana in DAK as part of a larger Oceania land would, to me, be a pretty reasonable idea. I would actually support that especially if it brought in some new live animals from that part of the world.

That being said, as has been mentioned, it seems that putting Moana in Adventureland in MK is the current thinking and IMHO that's a pretty ideal use of the IP.
 

doctornick

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Indy is safe for the foreseeable future. Echo Lake development is off the table.

Which is fine if they actually build something to replace the old Animation building (Launch Bay and the attached offices) - and connect it to the RNR area - because that is the more underutilized space. There's nothing particularly "wrong" with the IJ stunt show except that it is old. But I would hope/expect that Echo Lake as a land would be viewed for possible expansion in the future, especially if they can use some of the surrounding parking for additional land in that park.
 

PREMiERdrum

Well-Known Member
Which is fine if they actually build something to replace the old Animation building (Launch Bay and the attached offices) - and connect it to the RNR area - because that is the more underutilized space. There's nothing particularly "wrong" with the IJ stunt show except that it is old. But I would hope/expect that Echo Lake as a land would be viewed for possible expansion in the future, especially if they can use some of the surrounding parking for additional land in that park.
Indy still scores incredibly high, and takes a huge amount of people out of park circulation every couple of hours.

DHS was thought to be "done" with expansion by leadership as recently as last year. Their attention for expansion has now focused to the NW corner.
 

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