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Chef idea Mickey`=

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Ah, jeez, you make a good point. They put a disclaimer in front of it on Disney Plus... they probably consider it too problematic to build an attraction for.
Your actually like sensual flying through Agrabah then up to the clouds in Mickey's Philharmagic. The point of the film attraction the most popular would be the A Whole New World scene and Jasmine with Genie at the end as enough, doesn't have to be the whole film even though why can't it like others.

I have been thinking about this thru the eyes of those who are politically adverse. Since Aladdin is set in the middle east, I do not see any way a dark ride is developed around this movie--it is just a no win scenario. Too bad, as this was a terrific movie -- even liked the re boot.

Even just a flying indoor dark ride or simulator on a magical carpet flying over the many different parts of the world in the clouds just like the famous music scene in a A Whole New World? That whole scene resonates the entire film about a street boy falls in love with a Princess and just wants to take her to see the world for there's a far greater world than the palace she resides! Mickey's Philharmagic exists already with this showcasing if it was any trouble of any kind.
 
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Chef idea Mickey`=

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It's simple: In DHS, the singalong is Frozen 1; in EPCOT, the Sommerhus is themed to Frozen 2, and the ride is between 1 and 2; and in MK, the new World of Arendelle will be themed to Frozen 3.

Easy peasy!!
MisterPenguin you just made an excellent point in facts and opened me pandoras box of "possible upcoming possibilities in theory!"

Could it perhaps be possible why WDW but especially Disneyland resort does not have a World of Arrendale of any kind yet is because maybe while the international parks are finding new reasons to motivate visitors to visit their resorts the US would later want a newer land off of say the 3rd and 4th film. Imagine if now Elsa built has a new port Kingdom to call her own since she's free from being Queen of Arrendale? Something next like this would make visitors want to visit Elsa in her own place..........
 

SpectreJordan

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While there are certainly children who would refuse to step foot in a Villains-themed land, I don’t anticipate it would be anywhere near the majority. In fact, I expect this land would have attractions that would be much more accessible to young children than many other attractions at MK (not to mention DHS and DAK).

Even princess rides like TBA, 7DMT, and probably whatever they end up building for Moana, are inaccessible to many young kids, who either can’t (due to height restrictions) or won’t ride. Compare that to HM, MNSSHP, or, say, an Ursula spinner, spooky-themed experiences that many kids do/would love.

I think the demographic that would be most let down by a Villians land would be childless adults who have been clamoring for a villians-themed land (or park) that will genuinely scare them. I’m quite confident in predicting that Disney wouldn’t build something of that nature.
I don't think anyone who's been begging for the Villains idea thinks that will happen. Disney doesn't have any actual scary villains besides maybe Chernobog. People like the Disney Villains because they're evil but campy. The Villains people just want a fun, spooky land; the anti-Fantasyland.
Not quite some of those from some of the monster movies you have mentioned are in fact the hero's in the EU land . But in any case Frankentein wouldn't be chasing you even if that wasn't the case it would be Frankenstein's monster.

Centering a land around Villains allows WDI to be some what creative rather than doing another *yawn* book report the ride based on the latest animated feature.
Couldn't we say the Monster is the Doctor's "son" & thus a Frankenstein himself? ;)
 

PREMiERdrum

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Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?
 

castlecake2.0

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Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?
Honestly 2 new attractions, sprucing up of some smaller attractions, reopening all the closed shops/dining, and adding back some entertainment is what MK needs. Why create new infrastructure when there’s still plenty of closed infrastructure?
 

mattpeto

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Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?

Moana in AL or beyond BTM?
 

SpectroBro

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In the Parks
Yes
Sunday evening (virtual) happy hour and the good stuff came out - literally and figuratively.

Confidence is high for Moana and Coco in MK.

While other plans are afoot, they are sounding further off and out of focus. And we know the mouse's track record with Phase IIs.

Wouldn't be shocked if they're weighing the massive, as-discussed MK expansion vs. additional, moderate expansions at all 4 parks. Is the full "14 acre" BBTM juice worth the (infrastructure cost) squeeze?
Honestly I’d rather see them do something with the Stitch space in the near term.
 

lazyboy97o

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Allegedly this will never happen because the whole building - which includes Cosmic Ray's - would have to be completely gutted and rebuilt to current code.
Between the EPCOT Building Code, Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code there are different levels and criteria of renovation that trigger different amounts of updates. This is all dependent on the specific design of the existing facility, the nature of the new project and the scope of work. The big thing that really triggers significant updates is a change of occupancy, but a new attraction would not be a change of occupancy.
 

PREMiERdrum

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They're still considering Moana for Animal Kingdom?
No.

AK is locked with Indy, Encanto, and a Coco-inspired carousel.
Additional expansion being considered with Lion King and/or Pandora.

MK is trending towards Moana in AL and Coco as BBTM phase 1.

RSR, Villains, Zootopia are also under consideration for both MK and DHS. Very much undecided what and where at this point.
 

castlecake2.0

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No.

AK is locked with Indy, Encanto, and a Coco-inspired carousel.
Additional expansion being considered with Lion King and/or Pandora.

MK is trending towards Moana in AL and Coco as BBTM phase 1.

RSR, Villains, Zootopia are also under consideration for both MK and DHS. Very much undecided what and where at this point.
RSR to where Indy show is, easy transition, from Hollywood Blvd to that area, retheme backlot to a car garage; done. Keep star tours and move all the Star Wars characters to the celebrity spotlight area and have a small out of universe Star Wars area; done. Put all the Disney characters back into the animation building with some updated props and animation academy; done.
 

PREMiERdrum

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RSR to where Indy show is, easy transition, from Hollywood Blvd to that area, retheme backlot to a car garage; done. Keep star tours and move all the Star Wars characters to the celebrity spotlight area and have a small out of universe Star Wars area; done. Put all the Disney characters back into the animation building with some updated props and animation academy; done.
Indy is safe for the foreseeable future. Echo Lake development is off the table.
 

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