News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[ToTBellHop]

They could open up a 5th gate. Failed Kingdom. It would likely feature more recent films tho

I’d call it The Island of Misfit Toys.

 

[tpoly88]

You just proved one of my points. It’s a setting for a “ride”, not a land with multiple attractions. Disney already overspends on things, every new thing doesn’t have to be in an overpriced land for itself

there are also many other fan favorite movies that could use attractions so why limit things by building a land taking up more real estate than necessary

i agree, i think they are trying too hard to make everything immersive. why does it have to be a land, can it be an area like New Orleans square? that would fit in with the princess and Frog remake of splash mountain. im just hoping its not another expanded fantasy land in terms of squeezing in rides. they needed the space but it seems the rides could have been a lot better. could also use another sit down restuarant, like blue bayou.

 

[Skibum1970]

i agree, i think they are trying too hard to make everything immersive. why does it have to be a land, can it be an area like New Orleans square? that would fit in with the princess and Frog remake of splash mountain. im just hoping its not another expanded fantasy land in terms of squeezing in rides. they needed the space but it seems the rides could have been a lot better. could also use another sit down restuarant, like blue bayou.

This has been a complaint of mine for a while. While it can fit the theme of the land (ex. Fantasyland), it doesn't need massive exterior rockwork and everything else. People will like a ride if it's a great ride period.

 

[_caleb]

i agree, i think they are trying too hard to make everything immersive. why does it have to be a land, can it be an area like New Orleans square? that would fit in with the princess and Frog remake of splash mountain. im just hoping its not another expanded fantasy land in terms of squeezing in rides. they needed the space but it seems the rides could have been a lot better. could also use another sit down restuarant, like blue bayou.

What's the difference between a "land" and an "area?"

When I talk about a place being "immersive," I just mean that it has internally consistent and realistic theming. Seems like the question is "where should the consistent theming stop?" --at the entrance to the attraction? At the pathway leading up to the attraction? Should there be a gift shop themed to the attraction? What about restrooms? Should CMs have costumes themed to the attraction, or more generally to the "land" or collection of attractions?

In planning, designing, and building internally consistent themed places, I don't think it's possible for Disney to "try too hard."

 

[GhostHost1000]

What's the difference between a "land" and an "area?"

When I talk about a place being "immersive," I just mean that it has internally consistent and realistic theming. Seems like the question is "where should the consistent theming stop?" --at the entrance to the attraction? At the pathway leading up to the attraction? Should there be a gift shop themed to the attraction? What about restrooms? Should CMs have costumes themed to the attraction, or more generally to the "land" or collection of attractions?

In planning, designing, and building internally consistent themed places, I don't think it's possible for Disney to "try too hard."

How about they just not waste anymore money than necessary and just build more capacity at each park…more rides and shows asap.

 

[_caleb]

How about they just not waste anymore money than necessary and just build more capacity at each park…more rides and shows asap.

What do you think has kept them from doing this?

 

[Brer Panther]

Toy Story? Avatar? Dumbo? Beauty and the Beast? Star Wars?

Does the Beauty and the Beast stuff in Fantasyland even qualify as its own land? Isn't it actually a subland?

I think building a land around Toy Story was a mistake (especially as it was executed), but there's plenty of content to support the idea: four movies, several shorts, 3 or 4 made for tv specials...

I thought it was only two made-for-TV specials.

 

[dreday3]

Diagon Alley at Universal and Hogsmeade at IOA would both be considered a great success, no? Both lands(?) or areas based on a single IP.
Coco can do it. There is an enormous fanbase out there for it. Every year they play Coco in the park and it's standing room only.
Not saying they will or even should do this, but it most certainly can be done.

 

[_caleb]

Does the Beauty and the Beast stuff in Fantasyland even qualify as its own land? Isn't it actually a subland?

I thought it was only two made-for-TV specials.

What’s the difference between a “land,” and “area,” and a “sub-land?”

 

[_caleb]

Diagon Alley at Universal and Hogsmeade at IOA would be considered great success, no? Both lands(?) or areas based on a single IP.

Coco can do it. There is an enormous fanbase out there for it. Every year they play Coco in the park and it's standing room only.
Not saying they will or even should do this, but it most certainly can be done.

They’re saying “based on a single movie,” you’re saying “based on a single IP.”

 

[dreday3]

They’re saying “based on a single movie,” you’re saying “based on a single IP.”

Okay. I think they can build a land, if done correctly, based on a single movie like Coco. It practically built itself in the movie. I already described above just the start of what they could put in it.

 

[_caleb]

Okay. I think they can build a land, if done correctly, based on a single movie like Coco. It practically built itself in the movie. I already described above just the start of what they could put in it.

I agree with you. I don’t understand the desire to determine the worthiness of an IP for a “land/area” based on how well a movie did. To me, the better way to decide is “would this IP make a great attraction and themed place?”

Also, I’m not sure I understand how people are differentiating between lands, sub-lands, and areas. If it’s a ride and a shop themed alike, is it an area? What makes it a “land?”

 

[MisterPenguin]

Like all of us, I’ve long-dreamed of a $1 billion The Black Cauldron land. I plan to ask Bob about this at the next shareholder meeting.

They’ll do that around the same time they build the John Carter-land lol

 

[WorldExplorer]

Coco Land based on Santa Cecilia is like if Harry Potter Land was modeled after a random town in 1990s England.

Missing the point. A lot.

 

[dreday3]

Santa Cecilia

The Roman Virgin Martyr?

It should be based on the Land of The Dead, where most of the movie took place.

 

[James Alucobond]

I'm struggling to understand where the notion that this "land" would be based on just one movie came from anyway. Just as Liberty Square is based on colonial America and Frontierland is themed around the American frontier, the concept art for the area these two attractions would occupy looked like a more generalized postcolonial plaza that could conceivably host a number of attractions and meet-and-greets centered on the Latin American experience.

 

[WorldExplorer]

The Roman Virgin Martyr?

It should be based on the Land of The Dead, where most of the movie took place.

It's the town's name. But yeah, it's picking the boring option that we already have anyway (and better).

If one choice is too hard and the other already done, I vote do something else.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I'm struggling to understand where the notion that this "land" would be based on just one movie came from anyway. Just as Liberty Square is based on colonial America and Frontierland is themed around the American frontier, the concept art for the area these two attractions would occupy looked like a more generalized postcolonial plaza that could conceivably host a number of attractions and meet-and-greets centered on the Latin American experience.

And it shall be called…Latinx (+villains!) Land.

 

[GhostHost1000]

What do you think has kept them from doing this?

poor management and decision making

 

[GhostHost1000]

And it shall be called…Latinx (+villains!) Land.

Makes complete sense for the magic kingdom (facepalm)

I guess this would be the “and more” for the “to seven lands and more” trolley song