News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

Bocabear

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Can confirm. I once lit a screening of a popular television show involving dragons. The walls roiled in shades of red, yellow and orange. It looked pretty great, if I am permitted to say so.
For so long people were just so impressed RGBW LED Lights could do full spectrum...causing them to use "rainbow" on everything... I am glad the newness has worn off and designers are using them in more restrained ways.... They are an amazing component to work with...
 

wedenterprises

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Funny enough, LEDs don't have to be limited to just the cool colors = blues, greens, purples. You can do so much beyond those with LEDs.

I know this, as I am a lighting designer for theatrical shows.
I was a lighting designer in my previous career. I understand their pros and cons. They can be very dominating over the surface colour. I find their use generally overbearing in brightness and oversaturated in color, boring in their wash and lack of shadows, and very hard on the eyes.

Part of the reason for this is in their application. Disney loves to use them as floodlights and/or use them as if they're painting a surface. The trees at TBA are practically glowing blue and purple like Avatar. It's super unnatural.
The result, at least in outdoor applications, is you end up with the attractions I replied to which all look the same to me. Blasted with purple and blue glowing light. Maybe I'm alone but I think Disney takes away from the magic of the "place" often purely due to their use (or mis-use of LEDs).

Maybe part of my disdain is just the colors they use. lol. Not everything warrants color being blasted at it.

I'm not saying LED=bad. But I know poor lighting when I see it, as I'm sure you do too.
 

TheRealSkull

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I was a lighting designer in my previous career. I understand their pros and cons. They can be very dominating over the surface colour. I find their use generally overbearing in brightness and oversaturated in color, boring in their wash and lack of shadows, and very hard on the eyes.

Part of the reason for this is in their application. Disney loves to use them as floodlights and/or use them as if they're painting a surface. The trees at TBA are practically glowing blue and purple like Avatar. It's super unnatural.
The result, at least in outdoor applications, is you end up with the attractions I replied to which all look the same to me. Blasted with purple and blue glowing light. Maybe I'm alone but I think Disney takes away from the magic of the "place" often purely due to their use (or mis-use of LEDs).

Maybe part of my disdain is just the colors they use. lol. Not everything warrants color being blasted at it.

I'm not saying LED=bad. But I know poor lighting when I see it, as I'm sure you do too.
100% agree with you right here! You are not alone in thinking that. They haven't done a terrible job, but it could be better.
 

Bocabear

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and with current RGBW technology you can have blue light without it being BLUE light...the colors don't have to be super intense and eye-numbing... There is a lot to be said for subtle lighting.... lol
 

DCLcruiser

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I am sure any Villains land or attraction would be handled in a family-friendly and fun kind of way. Disney villains ( most of them) are vibrant and often silly caricatures... Vibrant, colorful and quirky... There is no reason to think they would handle them any other way... Like I said, it's not Halloween Horror Nights... And having a villain section that some of the tiniest kids might be a little afraid of makes it one of those milestone moments...when they are finally old enough to not be afraid and then realize it was all fun and a little silly...as the Disney Villains tend to be...
+1. Don't forget how many Villain's-point-of-view movies have come out.

Villain's land can be ominous, but friendly, in a medieval sort of way.
 

SilentWindODoom

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I wonder if the success or failure of the continuation of the Descendants series this summer will play into how they present the land or even how strongly they go for it. I still see them pushing the IP at Halloween, but dunno how strong it is among their portfolio.
 

Bill Cipher

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In the Parks
Yes
Nope. #notmyMickey

Walt after seeing the new Mickey Mouse cartoons:
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"WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE TO MY MOUSE?"

And after realizing they replaced the Great Movie Ride:
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"YOU GOT RID OF THE WIZARD OF OZ MUNCHKINLAND RECREATION FOR THIS NIGHTMARE?!"
Maybe a hot take but I'm of the mind that Walt would absolutely adore the Paul Rudish Mickey shorts. He was a cartoonist through and through, and Mickey was "assigned to the purposes of laughter." The Rudish shorts are the funniest the character has been in decades and the project most similar to Walt's shorts since their inception. It had been so long since the icon of the company felt like an actual mischievous character instead of some sanitized corporate mascot.

Disney TVA is the most overlooked sector of the company by a longshot, and the creatives there are truly talented and capable of producing some really compelling projects. Especially compared to the dumpster fire of the various film studios' string of box office bombs.
 

DCLcruiser

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Maybe a hot take but I'm of the mind that Walt would absolutely adore the Paul Rudish Mickey shorts. He was a cartoonist through and through, and Mickey was "assigned to the purposes of laughter." The Rudish shorts are the funniest the character has been in decades and the project most similar to Walt's shorts since their inception. It had been so long since the icon of the company felt like an actual mischievous character instead of some sanitized corporate mascot.

Disney TVA is the most overlooked sector of the company by a longshot, and the creatives there are truly talented and capable of producing some really compelling projects. Especially compared to the dumpster fire of the various film studios' string of box office bombs.
They use grotesque physical comedy like an episode of The Ren & Stimpy Show. It's terrible.
 

Surferboy567

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Mickey Views has released another video today and has said the following. Please keep in mind that Brayden is a dubious source and has a spotty record to say the least. The reason why I am posting is that he has proven to have gotten things right in the past with that disclaimer out of the way here goes:

Brayden has once again doubled down on the Radiator Springs Racers rumor coming to Magic Kingdom as apart of Beyond Big Thunder Mountain. In the first episode of the we call it imagineering series a Radiator Springs Racers model is shown. He alleges this model is actually for Magic Kingdom.

This is his exact quote..."It's a model of Radiator Springs Racers with the same basic track confurgiration as the one out in Disney California Adventure but the rockwork has been inverted. It has been flipped around and the rockwork along the back part looks like it has been value engineered down where it no longer has the big 50's car fins".

Of course, this could mean nothing but it's worth mentioning.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
Mickey Views has released another video today and has said the following. Please keep in mind that Brayden is a dubious source and has a spotty record to say the least. The reason why I am posting is that he has proven to have gotten things right in the past with that disclaimer out of the way here goes:

Brayden has once again doubled down on the Radiator Springs Racers rumor coming to Magic Kingdom as apart of Beyond Big Thunder Mountain. In the first episode of the we call it imagineering series a Radiator Springs Racers model is shown. He alleges this model is actually for Magic Kingdom.

This is his exact quote..."It's a model of Radiator Springs Racers with the same basic track confurgiration as the one out in Disney California Adventure but the rockwork has been inverted. It has been flipped around and the rockwork along the back part looks like it has been value engineered down where it no longer has the big 50's car fins".

Of course, this could mean nothing but it's worth mentioning.
I did notice the model, which would indicate it IS going somewhere, since it would be kind of strange to randomly have a model of a 12 yr old land in the middle of a room. But I double-down that this is a bad fit. I'll try to see if this is the "IP that doesn't fit Magic Kingdom at all" that my source was telling me about six months ago.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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This? Or was it this?-

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I can't even tell for sure what these are. Especially the model...
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No

MerlinTheGoat

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The first one with the picture is definitely Cars though, and it looks more substantial than just the ride if there's a neon sign visible on the side.
I thought initially that could be a green street sign, but zooming in on the picture, I can clearly see that it's the green neon from Ramone's store, AND the courthouse. I'm less certain about this, but I may also be seeing the leaning tower of tires in there. Not convinced about that one, but the other two buildings are definitely there.

But I thought the rumor was that it wouldn't include any of the town, just RSR. Unless it's a condensed version of the town with only those buildings at the end of the road.

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